December 1st, 2011
01:09 PM ET

Freedom University: studying in secret

By Thelma Gutierrez and Traci Tamura, CNN

Editor’s Update: In the hours since we first reported this story, there have been significant developments. The University Council at the University of Georgia voted to pass a resolution which opposes the Board of Regents policy passed last fall. The policy forbids undocumented students from attending five of its top public universities. It’s a symbolic win for supporters of academically qualified undocumented students who are banned from attending UGA, Georgia Tech, Georgia State University and Georgia Health Sciences University and Georgia College and State University, schools that the Board of Regents say had admitted undocumented students in the last two years. Regents spokesman John Millsaps told CNN while the regents have no plan to revisit the issue, they are not preventing undocumented students from getting an education. Millsaps says there are 30 other public institutions in the University System of Georgia that they can attend. He said the regents passed the policy amid growing public concern that undocumented students were taking limited seats away from qualified citizens and legal immigrants. He emphasized the regents have no plans to change the policy.

Every Sunday, in an unmarked building, in an undisclosed location in the college town of Athens, Georgia, a group of students quietly gather in secret. They are aspiring professors, diplomats and engineers who have been banned from Georgia's top five public universities.

But here, in this donated space, it is safe to study.

Undocumented students attending class at Freedom University

Undocumented students attending class at Freedom University

This place is called Freedom University. It has one classroom and four professors, scholars who've taught at the likes of Amherst, Harvard, Emory and Yale, who are teaching here, on their days off, without pay.

Their students are undocumented. They have nowhere else to go and no one else to teach them.

The American Dream

Keish grew up in South Korea. She remembers the harsh education regimen in her home town of Seoul. Classes Monday through Saturday. After-class academic programs every day. Keish and her fellow students in Seoul were basically at school from 8 in the morning until 8 at night every day except Sunday.

It sounds like a much more ambitious education system than in the United States. So how is it that Keish's parents, who lived an upper-middle-class life in Seoul, her father earning enough money as a salesman to enable her mother to stay at home – how is it that such a couple would move to America with one thing in mind: their children's education?

"My parents wanted me to have the freedom to learn what I wanted to learn and to pursue my interests. To do whatever I want in any field. In South Korea, students are expected to go through their academics, graduate from college, and enter office life where it's safe," says Keish. "My parents wanted me to have more opportunity, they wanted me to have the American Dream," she says.

And so, when she was 10, with no English except the words "mom, dad, and maybe tiger," Keish and her family moved to America. A low-income apartment complex is where they settled down in an immigrant community outside Atlanta.

Freedom University student Keish and her parents in South Korea.

Freedom University student Keish and her parents in South Korea.

Her mother became a seamstress. Her father works at a flea market. They got tax I.D. numbers, which the government routinely gives to immigrants, and paid their taxes. CNN was shown the documentation for that.

They pushed their daughter to excel at school. Keish says it only took her about two years to become fluent in English. As for her undocumented status, she says her schools never found out. She lived with the secret.

Keish excelled in many aspects of school. She was not a straight-A student. B-plus was her average, she says. Her favorite subject was literature. She became captain of her high school debate team.

And she kept her secret. She was nominated to participate in the Governor's Honors Program, but without a Social Security number, fear prevented her from pursuing it.

She was chosen to participate in a model United Nations trip to New York. Again, fear of being caught kept her from flying. "Many, many missed opportunities," she says. "I was scared.

The ban

Keish graduated from high school two years ago. The timing was bad. The U.S. economy was already in a terrible state. Then the State of Georgia Board of Regents would soon alter its admissions policy to prevent the admission of any undocumented student as long as there is a single academically qualified American applicant or legal immigrant who has been turned away.

The policy, in effect, prevents the admission of any undocumented students from being admitted to the top five public colleges in the state. A spokesman for the Board of Regents told CNN the policy change was not about money. Undocumented students actually pay three times more than what Georgia residents pay. The regents said it's an equity issue. Some argue that in these tough times, every available spot should be reserved for people who are in the United States legally.

The news was a blow to Keish. Her eyes welled up with tears as she remembered the moment she realized her American Dream was fading away.

"I fell into a deep depression. I hated myself," she says, "because I looked back on grades and scores and thought every night and every day that I could have tried harder. Maybe I should have gotten a 4.0 and then I could have gotten into a prestigious Ivy League school. I was ashamed I didn't try harder. I shut myself away from the world for a long time."

But she did not quit.

The birth of a school

The moment the Regents passed the ban, a small army of students, scholars and community activists jumped into action. Lorgia Garcia-Pena, Professor of Spanish and Latino Ethnic Studies at the University of Georgia, was among the first.

She says they started with only an idea, "but no money, no building or supplies, we had nothing but our human resources and we had ganas." (Ganas means desire in Spanish). As word spread, "overnight the books poured in and people in the community said you can have your classes here," says Professor Pamela Voekel, a colleague of Garcia-Pena's.

Professor Pamela Voekel hands out text books to Freedom University students

Professor Pamela Voekel hands out text books to Freedom University students

Then they came up with the name, Freedom University, in honor of the Freedom Schools in the Deep South that were developed during the civil rights movement to educate people who were excluded from the education system because of segregation.

"We borrowed the reference with respect and as homage to the people who had the same courage as our students," says Bethany Moreton, a history professor.

Linda Lloyd, director of the Economic Justice Coalition in Athens, supports the new school. Her perspective is shaped by her memories growing up in the segregated South where she was one of six black students in an otherwise all-white elementary school. The black students often didn't have textbooks. She says she remembers the sting of discrimination – and feeling that quality education was only for a certain few.

While others say this restriction on illegal immigrants is a matter of equity and fairness for U.S. citizens, Lloyd sees it as "a civil rights issue because it reminds me of the same issues that African-Americans were struggling with in the '50s and '60s." Lloyd noted there was once a time when black people were not considered U.S. citizens.

As word spread about Freedom University, the founders began receiving calls from university students and others in the community who offered to drive the undocumented students from Atlanta to Athens, an hour and a half away. Others organized an online book drive. Then, offers started coming in from scholars around the world volunteering to lecture at Freedom University.

The school is only a month old. It has 33 students. Eight had to be turned away because of space.

Running a school for undocumented presents certain challenges. The students worry about law enforcement, about being found out, arrested and deported. They worry about harassment by anti-immigrant activists should they discover the location of the school. The professors say they do all they can to protect the students and alleviate their fears.

Professor Betina Kaplan says she has learned about perseverance and the hunger to learn. "Our students will not get school credit for the courses, and because they're undocumented and because of their immigration status, they will not be able to work legally afterward, but they continue to come."

"It's wonderful," says Keish, "they are there because they want to learn."

Keish, an undocumented student, participates in a History class at Freedom University

Keish, an undocumented student, participates in a History class at Freedom University

This Sunday, Keish and her fellow students will gather again, as they do every Sunday, as they wait for what they hope will be a change of policy from the Georgia Board of Regents. Today, a group of professors and members of the student government from the University of Georgia will ask the University's Council to go on record opposing the Regents' policy. The Council will decide whether to push for a change that once again allows undocumented students, who have the grades and the scores, to apply to the state's leading colleges.

Keish is not waiting. She is applying to colleges out of state. On her applications, she says, she is identifying herself as undocumented. She will not keep her secret any longer.

"This is my home," she says of America. "This is the land that nurtures my dreams, that shapes who I am right now."

CNN's Michael Schulder contributed to this report.

soundoff (1,473 Responses)
  1. tonks1

    @bill, you write: "Most teachers are some of the stupidest people you can find..." Really? What a moronic and blanketed statement! Upon what basis or research do you have?! I have a Masters degree 10 yrs experience in the field , and 10 yrs college teaching experience. My students are getting jobs, even in this crappy economy! Trying to figure out how that makes me dumb...if anything I think that empowers a teacher because they are giving back to the economy and the country. Teachers aren't given enough credit for shaping minds and some students, probably like yourself at one time, didn't have enough accountability to take advantage of their knowledge. The problem today is that the education system is broken. Not by the teachers (although there are people in every field that suck at their jobs) but mostly by the politicians, and administration who AREN'T smart enough to be in education but blindly manage it into ruins because they make it about money. If you want to see America become smarter, educate everyone!!! Then collectively, we'll make better decisions. The people who get into college should be the most qualified, period. Not some joe schmoe who just because he's American, wants to go to college, but can't get above a 1.5 GPA because he won't study or apply himself.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:49 pm |
    • Josh

      I don't know. It's pretty stupid to let someone get to you so easily. Must be a Liberal.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:53 pm |
    • Sure

      Remember, a number of politicians are lawyers, which means they had to go to college longer. Kind of kills, I have a master’s degree. Many of the others are wealthy business people, which mean they have some smarts. Therefore, you are right; it has to be about education not money. Problem is you have these people plus the unions, which you are part of the problem. Now out of all of these people how are you or anyone going to change this from money and power to education? Dream on. The system is made to be so screwed up so badly and disjointed that not just one group of people were going to change the system. My state is now going to spend at least 65 million dollars more (or make the same number of grants and loans smaller) to give grants and loans to illegal aliens and if they get into a class then that will exclude and legal resident. Therefore, you say we should allow the brighter student to hold the seat. What would happen if your kid were not able to go college because an illegal student took their seat? There are only so many seats. I know you would say that is not fair. Because of the number of illegals (even with their American born kids) in this state, we have the second lowest high school graduations in the country. I am glad you get to take one kid and show how great they are; problem is to get that one we have to have hundreds or even thousands that cost of billions of dollars a year.

      December 1, 2011 at 9:28 pm |
  2. AmadoC

    I understand how they feel, watching the rest of their generation enter schools and move into faraway places as if they are staying behind. Since my dad died when I was eleven and my mother never even went to kindergarden, obviously nor elementary school or high-school.... I found it daunting and something in my head automatically blocked me away from thinking about school and eventually dropping out. I found the nicest lady at the library of the GED program though and gave me a free CD-Rom for my laptop and told me to go take the test in the local college which I was surprised to have found two blocks away from where I live. I guess it's ment to happen how you get to also live a few blocks away from work and in one semester graduate with honors and get to attent the university that is happening to be building a 50,000 seat stadium soon. My mom is doing great working in a hospital where she gets a lot of vacation time... she has visited me over three times from California this year and she is very proud that I am getting all As in college and she even bought me a $144 computer desk that I ordered online with no taxes and free shipping... it is going to arrive tomorrow and guaranteed say's UPS and it only took three days to get here. WOW!

    December 1, 2011 at 8:48 pm |
    • Ann Marie

      You're happy about not paying sales tax? That funds schools!

      December 1, 2011 at 8:56 pm |
      • AmadoC

        LOL, sometimes it's reality that schools... don't need such extra money they themselves probably don't have to pay when they are forced to buy off-state because of a deal.

        December 1, 2011 at 9:04 pm |
      • AmadoC

        I love paying taxes BTW 😀 When I paid California taxes on Ebay because I was ordering some Nintendo 3DS games for my little nephew and niece in California... I chose to buy from California not only because it would get there right away, because when I lived there I received 200% in return A+ service from my state through great law enforcement service, overall happiness of the public, cleaniless of of the beaches & safety, great food and = awsome smart friends too I miss a lot!

        December 1, 2011 at 9:10 pm |
  3. Annexian

    Thank you, CNN, for celebrating the lackeys of the "Globalist Bankers" working so hard to slightly increase their lot in life at the cost of vastly diminishing ours. Thank you for heroizing those that for FREE help CRIMINALS...

    December 1, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
  4. Ramon F. Herrera

    Most Americans are very ignorant about the politics of immigration. This is an excellent tutorial material:

    (the donkey is in full agreement with the business side of the GOP)

    December 1, 2011 at 8:44 pm |
  5. American Citizen

    Excellent.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:44 pm |
  6. Ed

    How many illegal immigrant puff pieces does CNN have to do in a week?

    December 1, 2011 at 8:43 pm |
    • Ramon F. Herrera

      Faux does more. It is one the most complex issue of our times. In Europe is 10 times worse, with violence and murder.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:46 pm |
      • sosideirish

        Oh, and there's none of that going on here?

        December 3, 2011 at 7:45 am |
  7. Charles

    What a bunch of hypocrites! I paid taxes...I follow the law...etc., etc., etc. Most of you "Christians", I am more than sure you cheat the government on your taxes, you cheat on your spouse, probably a bunch of drug addicts and drunks that even if they give you the opportunity to study you would throw it away and keep complaining about someone else...Brothers, we are all on this together. We only live once, they will only live once. Maybe one of this kids will change your life or the life of you love ones, always give people a chance!

    December 1, 2011 at 8:38 pm |
    • immigrant

      I was an immigrant too, a legal one. I went to the best professional business school in the Mid-west, got my MBA. My classmates went to the best employers, consultant firm, investment bank, etc. I applied for immigration and was asked to go home to wait. That wait lasted for 8 years because my place of birth has limited quota. So after eight years, I was head of the local office of a regional conglomerate, returned to US, not through Ellis Island, but LAX. The immigrant officer handed me my green card, and said "Welcome to USA. Your first trip here?" I smiled bitterly and said "thank you, many times." This is my experience. Do it on waiting list, and the right way. No amnesty, please. Amnesty is unfair and a signal for more illegal to come.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:56 pm |
    • Beau

      Where have you been? under a rock or under your basement? education is important for all of us, while these kids are illegal in the country, they just want to learn. These professors donated their times and skills to give these kids education. They didn't ask for your charity. If you are so upset, write a letter to your congressional leaders. This is very complicated issue not a one day solving matter. People like you are sad. Get up and speak if you are so unhappy.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:58 pm |
    • Jared

      I'm sorry, but are you using people who cheat on their wives as justification for people to break the law? I feel bad for these people, and I hope they get their citizenship. But, laws are made for a reason. Cheating on your taxes is breaking the law, people in a country illegally are breaking the law... neither should be tollerated. However, you're probably more likely to be punished for cheating on your taxes than being in the country illegally. I'd agree however, that the United States needs to improve the intelligence of the people IN the United States first and foremost. This is a big reason we're falling so far behind other Countries in academics.

      December 1, 2011 at 9:49 pm |
  8. Lunaclara

    These folks aren't asking for a handout – they pay their fees, generally more than the locals. I have mixed emotions on this issue. On the one hand, most folks who come here illegally do so because they are desperate to have a decent life. I can understand that. But they are breaking the law, which should have consequences. These are not simple issues, to which farmers in Alabama can attest. Unemployed Alabamans – of whom there are many – have not flocked to fill the positions vacated by illegals.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:38 pm |
  9. Roger That

    "The school is only a month old. It has 33 students. Eight had to be turned away because of space."

    Reminded of the Civil Rights issue where decisions about people and their lives were based on space, a new school is being formed for those Forced Away from Education Due to Space. The School of Those Deprived of Education Due to Space is proud of its frosh class of 8, but sorry that it cannot add a few more. For those outside the 8, a trophy has been sent through the mail to your home showing that you had the courage to try to gain entrance and get a free lunch just as Americans are learning that there ain't no such thing.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:37 pm |
  10. ML

    why are people so ignorant.
    i serve in the united states military and i see nothing wrong with people trying to be the best they can be . thats what these people are trying to do. why do u hate when our ancestors fled oppression and founded this country the land of the home and the brave. there are immigrants seeking a better life as our ancestors were. they just want a better education and make something better of themselves. we are offered the same opportunity but most of the people complaining about how unfair it is for them to get treated equally don't have the sense to go out and apply for colledge there are plenty out there who are willing to take you get off your buts and apply. as for money there are billions given away every year in grants. there is no excuse for laziness.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:36 pm |
    • Hawksmoor

      Thanks for being a voice of reason ML. It's a shame there are many hate-filled bigots in America.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:40 pm |
      • sosideirish

        You continue to use the term "bigot" in reference to people who object to ILLEGALS demanding the same rights as American citizens. This is a matter of law, not of ethnicity, religion, nationality, etc.

        December 3, 2011 at 8:01 am |
    • Mike, NH

      There are 7 billion people in the world. The vast majority are much worse of than we are. How many should we let in? 50 million? 100 million? 1 billion? We currently let in 1 million people legally each year. That's more than the other 199 countries of the wolrd combined. We do more than our share.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
      • ML

        im not saying that im saying that the process which is in place now is not good. my mom paid taxes and worked hard as a house keeper and was deported . im saying there needs to be a way to make sure that criminals are punished and innocent families are helped its not perfect but the world is not perfect were all human we have to help one another. go read a bible or something.

        December 1, 2011 at 9:09 pm |
    • Roger That

      You serve, and yet you have no respect for citizenship. Then you ask about stupid people. Comical. I'll bet you are not a grunt. The drama recently surfacing (3-4 years) suggests that there are more and more people but there are rules that shift like lines in sand. Where rules are made, and stand, it seems they must be destroyed. There should be some kind of siren warning people of the turning away, perhaps a loud bang. Sadly, you whimper.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:51 pm |
      • ML

        funny have you looked around your barracks lately many of the people in your branch were illegal at one point and naturalized thru the military go talk to them and share your thoughts.

        December 1, 2011 at 9:04 pm |
  11. Mike

    Come to California and you will get state tuition assistance too

    December 1, 2011 at 8:35 pm |
  12. Mike

    The real problem is the way this article displays the issue. Let's flip the scenario: Keish gets into the school over a legal, qualified applicant. Now, if those schools started actually adopting this policy, families would start lawsuits left and right. New legislation and rules would have to be written, and everything gets bogged down in time and money, no one wins. At least, with the current Board legislation as it is, they ARE NOT flat out denied entrance. If they are qualified academically, and there are no other legal applicants qualified, then they will accept them. This, in no way, is wrong. What the article has done, however, is paint perfectly logical thinking and legislation that makes the best of what's around, sound somehow clandestine and evil. As if the entire board of Georgia educators are somehow sitting around thinking of ways to further remind everyone of the South's history with discrimination. I think we all know that is not the case. The real issue is a reporter who feels for this girls particular scenario, which is somewhat tragic, however not an impossible one either, afterall, she obviously already has this wonderful American education, I think she'll muddle through somehow, but the reporter here is trying to light a fire under what is really a non-issue here, by conjuring up thoughts and memories of past transgressions of previous generations. The facts are: two students, fully qualified, one legal, one not, who get's in? The legal student. If someone can logically explain to me where that kind of thinking is wrong, and use no crutch of discrimination or anything else, but simple logic, then I would consider this article worthwhile. I will say this, it is making people think, although I think for the wrong reasons...

    December 1, 2011 at 8:35 pm |
    • effelbee

      Do you actually think any one of these profiled immigrants would be "displacing" a well-qualified "legal"? This argument has been used repeatedly and the actual yield figures for state universities' acceptance rates defeat it every time. Dumber kids might not get in, but your hypothesis that there is someone with "all else being equal" is nonsense.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:43 pm |
      • Sure

        How much dumber (your words) is this next legal resident then the illegal? Ther are only so many seats in college and it's taking many students more than 4 years to graduate. The way you put it the next student is a moron and a criminal. You talk about statistics, check the statistics on students who didn't do well in high school but took off in college and bettered themselves and their country. If you want just the smartest then we'll allow millions and millions of kids from India who have muchs higher IQs, skills and drive to take over the classrooms. How about that? There are counter arguments for anything each side has. The only one that anyone on the girls side won't answer is, How many people do we let in? If we opened the border we would have 20 million more people in this country in a year and double that the next year. What do you say? What is your answer? Where do we draw the line? If the kid is only so so smart we don't let him stay? Please give us the exact thing we should do that will benefit all and not hurt anyone. C'mon give it to us.

        December 1, 2011 at 9:46 pm |
  13. Aeolien

    People often use the argument that “all Americans came from immigrants” True, there was a time when immigration was essential for the growth and the prosperity of this nation. That time has passed however. Don’t lament because you missed the opportunity. I regret that I missed the opportunity buy the domain names for nike or coka cola.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
    • effelbee

      What a supercilious and mindless comment. Did you actually read the article? You see predisposed to be anti-immigrant with no actual thought. Too bad.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:39 pm |
      • Aeolien

        I did. I just read too many comments where people were constantly saying “you came from immigrants too” As if then relates to now.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
    • ML

      so you are saying that these people are good for nothing and a nusience to this country. i wonder if have the balls to say this to someone to their face. they are not taking advantage of the country they are trying to be part of it and build a better future for themselves i know many who have joined the military for the very freedoms you enjoy. we fight for people like you. quit hatin

      December 1, 2011 at 8:40 pm |
    • Thom

      Not sure how you image these people "missing" the opportunity as they were simply not alive 100+ years ago. Maybe I'm missing something here...

      December 1, 2011 at 8:41 pm |
    • ML

      . they are not taking advantage of the country they are trying to be part of it and build a better future for themselves i know many who have joined the military for the very freedoms you enjoy. we fight for people like you. quit hatin

      December 1, 2011 at 8:41 pm |
  14. sheri jones

    Recently, one of my students and her entire family became naturalized citizens. They spent YEARS going through the process. She was so proud and excited about participating in the citizenship ceremony with her family. I have no problem with others coming to our country – it just needs to be done the correct way.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:33 pm |
    • Josh

      Sheri, there are times when it simply takes too long to come to America through the proper channels. For these people, many of whom live in dangerous places, the best thing to do is abandon their homes and try pursue a better future. I agree that when possible it should be done legally. But when, for some cases, it takes over 20 years to accomplish this goal drastic steps have to be taken. Maybe we should try and reform our legal immigration to make it easier to become American citizen which something that many of us take for granted because this is all we know. by the luck of the draw we were born in America, we should try to give this privilige of being American to anyone who wants it.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:39 pm |
      • Sure

        Let's see, from what you say we would need to include who? Most of the mexicans living along the border and all of the residents of many of the cities in Mexico. Everyone from Burma (I still use that name). Millions from China and India. Many many from many places in Africa. And of course we can't forget the middle east now could we. I'm probably up to 20 million people who we need to be let in right now, I mean right now! Is that what you mean about changing policy to make it easier for people dying of starvation or in danger of being killed by the people in power? Which one of these people are you going to exlude. Don't forget all of the people who are sick and can't get medical help, can't forget them can we. I just wish some of you people would stop and think for just a second. What do we have to do if I want my way to happen. Then after you've thought it through, write it down a few times and then put it out there for all of us to read.

        December 1, 2011 at 9:57 pm |
      • Sure

        go see this you tube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

        December 1, 2011 at 10:01 pm |
      • Josh

        Sure, I watched the video and it was very interesting. I disagree with you are saying though. Based on what the gumball man said, 99.9% of these people will not try to go to a rich country, so the number of 20 million seems a little large. Next why would we trap people in their countries, that seems wrong. What I am saying is that, the people who want to come to America, and unless they are criminals, they should be allowed. It is up to the people individually whether or not they come here.

        December 1, 2011 at 10:17 pm |
    • ML

      yea see i dont know how to fix an issue like this either but i know its wrong. but ill tell u my story im 20 in the military and my mom was illegal she was deported when i was 15 and i was going from home to home until i joined the military and now im trying to get her back.
      sometimes accepting someone even if they are illegal can be easier on them and there family.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:46 pm |
    • Rafael

      Hi Sheri. There are only a few possible ways for a person to become a resident (green-card holder), and then a citizen years later. It's basically either through:

      1) Investment: You have to put about $1 million in the U.S. economy. This is the fastest way.
      2) Family ties: Marriage is pretty fast too, or if you have an American grandpa it can take 18 years or so.
      3) Employment: You need to have at least a 4-year college degree and be sponsored by a company that can prove that you have pretty rare skills. This process takes about 9 years.

      If you live illegally in the U.S. for more than 1 year, and you are caught by the CIS, you'll be barred from re-entering the country for 10 years. That's part of the reason why those kids are so afraid.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:52 pm |
  15. Sidi Soueina

    Hello. I am a professor with many years of experience. How do I volunteer for such a university? Do they have online classes. Please let me know here soueina@gmail.com

    December 1, 2011 at 8:32 pm |
    • Logan

      I will send you an email this evening. Thank you for your interest.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
  16. w

    Load them on a truck and ship them all out. Illegal means illegal , nothing more nothing less. Get out of our country!!

    December 1, 2011 at 8:31 pm |
    • Hawksmoor

      I wish we could ship bigots like yourself out too.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
    • Bill

      Are you a Cherokee or an Apache?

      December 1, 2011 at 8:41 pm |
    • ML

      this is who i fight for.
      ( so many soilders out there who were illegal once read this and dont know what to think of ppl like you)

      December 1, 2011 at 8:48 pm |
  17. Ron Paul 2012!!!

    This article isn't really is clear about what the motivations of the parents. If they were upper-middle class koreans with an public education system far superior to the American public education, why would they leave that to become impoverished, disfranchisement people in the United States. It doesn't make any sense. It is difficult to get into Korean Universities, but these parent never gave her the chance. I condom these freedom universities, they can learn as much as they want, just don't take taxpayers money an American's spot.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:30 pm |
    • Pat

      You "condom" them?

      December 1, 2011 at 8:40 pm |
  18. FG

    It just amazes me that during the celebration of God and Christmas people still have time to spew out hate towards their fellow man. You just dont get it do you?

    December 1, 2011 at 8:27 pm |
    • Sardukar

      Yes we should all eat the noodles the Spaghetti Monster requires it...
      rAmen..

      December 1, 2011 at 8:47 pm |
  19. roy

    Amazing story. I just donated to their fund on their website.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
    • Logan

      Thank you Roy. As a student at the University of Georgia, I have been working to repeal this ban. Until then, Freedom University is the best we can do. We sincerely appreciate it.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:29 pm |
      • An American With Sense Of Reality

        Very True

        December 1, 2011 at 8:31 pm |
  20. Rafael

    Those are the type of professors that you remember for the rest of your life.

    As for the kids, this is my opinion: Go back to your country of birth, or go to another country where you can easily convert the student visa to the resident status. I know that, inside, you feel American... and you really are. You shouldn't have to abandon the United States. However, for how long do you expect to live that way? I know it's scary, and you'll probably be away from your family and friends for many years.

    But, kids, know this: Once you're a doctor, or an engineer, or any other real hard profession, the world will open its doors. You can go anywhere you want. You can do anything you want. You can return to the United States, and its government will place a higher priority on you than on its own redneck citizens.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
    • E

      She came into the US at 10 years old. Do you seriously expect people in her situation to make such a life decision at that age? I would hold her parents accountable for the choice of entering illegally, but not her. Had it been back then, it would be easier to say deport them. If it weren't for the economic issues THAT would introduce ...

      Now, we're unfortunately 10 years down the road, which introduces complexities to her situation.

      December 1, 2011 at 9:07 pm |
      • Rafael

        I agree with you. I mean for them to make the decision now. I know that it may not be possible for some of them. I would check with the embassy of my country to help me apply to free universities there. If there is a language barrier, it can be very difficult. I know. I have been there. I returned, and I'm in medical school now.

        December 1, 2011 at 9:45 pm |
    • LZ

      No, the goverment will not place a priority on the! I have gotten an higher education from the 11th grade of the HS through Ph.D all on scolarships. So, US governent invested in my education almost 500,000 dollars. I never broke any laws, always had legal status, paid taxes... however US government decided that I am not worthy of staying and contributing back... however people that came illigally, did not learn English, went to prison on and off were worthy enpugh to stay... go figure...:)

      December 1, 2011 at 9:07 pm |
      • Rafael

        I know what you mean. I was a legal student in the U.S. once.

        December 1, 2011 at 9:47 pm |
  21. Megan K

    It seems to me this is a sad story, its a shame that her parents never managed to get her a green card or citizenship but I can't help but to agree that American Citizens should be given priority in public schools. My questions is, instead of playing the victims of the system, why not beat it and become a citizen, stopping this law from blocking her from her future? What is impeding her (or her classmates for that matter) from applying for citizenship or even just applying to private universities where the law does not apply?

    December 1, 2011 at 8:23 pm |
    • Logan

      Our immigration laws state that if you have stayed in the US illegally for more than 365 days, you are barred from reentering legally for 10 years. These children have no other options. They have no way to become citizens or enter the legal way.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:28 pm |
      • Megan K

        Thank you I was not aware of that fact. Seems a shame to punish children for their parents crime but I guess that is how the system is laid out... for now.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
      • Jim

        Maybe parents should have known better than to break the law in the first place? Imimigration law is just another law.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
    • Mike, NH

      Nothing impedes them from applying and waiting their turn like the 1 million we let in legally every year. They just don't want to wait their turn.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:30 pm |
    • Mike, NH

      Logan, too bad they didn't do it correctly from the start huh? Too bad their parents basically ruined their chances with illegal entry.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:32 pm |
    • Julie

      It amazes me how many Americans think that people are illegal because they do not want to become citizens. Trust me, becoming a citizen is the dream of most!! Or at least becoming a legal permanent resident! Who likes to live in fear? So they don't have to pay taxes?? Even if that was true.. is it worth all they have to go thru? No! And contrary to what most Americans think, most immigrant pay taxes! They pay taxes thru a tax ID, which allows them to pay taxes, but have no social security and do not have the right to file for tax return! Who wants that?? The government actually receives billions of taxes every year from individual tax IDs without claims of tax return every year – go research this yourself!
      So why don't these people become citizens?? Well, the US do not simply hand out citizenships to anyone who wants! No country does! There is a long process to do it. First you have to be a legal permanent resident for year and show good moral character – which is what we want, right? But becoming a legal permanent is the first obstacle! Those are not handed out either!! There is a lot of bureaucracy! The first of many many many steps of the process is to get a company or individual person to sponsor you. Now, if you are so in favor of immigrants becoming legal and think they don't do it because they don't want, why don't you go sponsor a family yourself?
      I don't mean to be rude.. and I apologize if I offend anyone here. My intention, as an American citizen, is to contribute with some knowledge. I just wish we weren't so ignorant about issues like this. If you don't really know about something, go look deeper first before judging others. The main reason a lot of people hate/dislike immigrants is simply due to their lack of knowledge and their misconceptions about the issue.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:50 pm |
      • Ramon F. Herrera

        The only ones that hate immigrants are conservative far righties (aka baggers), Julie.

        December 1, 2011 at 10:28 pm |
    • Ana

      The immigration system is not one that is in place to really help immigrants. I can assure you, NO migrant is of immigrant status due to choice.
      I am a part of this society. I have never received goverment assistance and I pay my taxes. Yet the only way for me to begin the process of citizenship is marrying in to it. Returning to 'my country' is not a choice as it is not my country. This is my country, this is my home.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:52 pm |
      • Ramon F. Herrera

        God bless you Ana, I wish you the best.

        December 1, 2011 at 10:21 pm |
  22. Kyle

    First of all the reporter didn't travel across the country to Athens. CNN is based out of Atlanta, of all the things to say to make her sound important she say "across the country" as if she's on some sort of top secret journey. Second, obviously these illegal immigrants are not being allowed in these public schools. Georgia's first and foremost priority should be letting state residents into their public schools as Georgia has one of the lowest college student populations in the Country. Why should we be letting in people who's families pay no taxes at all and in fact cost the government more money. There is no way illegal aliens should be getting college degrees over Americans especially with the Occupy Wall Street protests. Instead of complaining about how Wall Street doesn't share they should be getting jobs, and what better way to get a well paying job than going to a university. If Occupy Wall Street protesters still believe that life isn't fair imagine how 18 year old high school students must feel when they learn that because illegal aliens are taking their spots at public universities they won't be able to go to college.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
    • turquoise

      The reporter is based out of California.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:23 pm |
    • Sherry

      Hi Kyle. The reporter is based in Los Angeles, not Atlanta.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:31 pm |
    • Kevin

      I never take the time to leave comments because I find it futile in any sense... However, I had to reply to your comment. I couldn't live without letting you know that you sound like an utter fool. Get some class and education, boy.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:37 pm |
    • VF

      *whose

      December 1, 2011 at 8:39 pm |
    • Julie

      One of your many misconceptions is that immigrants don't pay taxes! Most do – see my other post. While I am sure some don't, just like some citizens don't properly pay their taxes like they should – either way is wrong!!
      Not gonna waste a lot of time here trying to change your misconceptions... but just to point out another error:
      Yes, GA has a low number of kids going to college, but that is not due to lack of spots available – those are just being filled by out of state students. The real reason a lot of kids in GA do not go to school is way more complex, and we would have to start by our GA pre-K school system all the way to high school!!

      December 1, 2011 at 8:59 pm |
    • Kate

      Keish's family actually did pay taxes. The article clearly states that her parents got a tax card and paid their taxes.

      December 1, 2011 at 10:13 pm |
  23. Joe K

    1814 the Indians (Native Americans) were exempted from Naturalization and Forced from Tribal their Land.

    BOTTOM LINE: the only true legal citizens of this great land (The Native Americans) were forced to become illegals

    So if you are a US citizen today, learn how you became one. Then perhaps you can learn how to get along with your fellow man that wants the American Dream just as much as you do.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:19 pm |
    • Hawksmoor

      Here, here Joe.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:20 pm |
      • Ramon F. Herrera

        It is "hear, hear".

        December 1, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
      • Hawksmoor

        That it is. Typos happen.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:44 pm |
      • Pat

        Where, where?

        December 1, 2011 at 9:14 pm |
    • clem238

      Absolutely correct. The white man tried to bully their way in everything the Native American's lives. Relearning all this in college history just proves it all over again. Native Americans ARE the forefathers of this country !!!!

      December 1, 2011 at 8:29 pm |
      • Ann Marie

        No they are not, they would have never made the great Nation that the US has become. They were unorganized warring tribes.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:59 pm |
    • An American With Sense Of Reality

      This is very true

      December 1, 2011 at 8:33 pm |
    • NorCalMojo

      This argument is racist, old and OH SO TIRED OUT.

      will you ever stop whining?

      December 1, 2011 at 8:46 pm |
    • R.Rodriguez

      completely true Joe, we are all imigrants.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:48 pm |
    • UNF05

      Amen and Amen. These kids have earned the right to attend college and citizenship.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:51 pm |
  24. bill

    Isn't the surest sign of a communist country one where children are forced by law to go to indoctrination centers? Can't believe we have to go through 12 years of that nonsense. Most teachers are some of the stupidest people you can find. School exists to make children stupid and obedient.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:18 pm |
    • Bozobub

      Nope! But apparently it affected YOU that way.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
  25. greenterror22

    Good for Georgia. There is something in this country called rule of law and if you don't want to abide by it get out.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:18 pm |
    • Ramon F. Herrera

      Why should they get out? They have the political power to modify the laws.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:19 pm |
      • Odin999

        Its sad that there is no longer any respect for the law. Why doesn't the Federal Government do its job and deport all illegal aliens? We have over ten million illegal aliens in this country because the government has not done its job for over 25 years.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:38 pm |
      • Sue

        Again, get legal or get out. What other country can you enter illegally, have free babies, receive free groceries and expectg a free education?

        December 1, 2011 at 8:46 pm |
    • Billy Boy

      Gee, Georgia finally got something right. However, the US of A just can't get it. I spent 345 days in S. Vietnam's Highlands' jungles chasing Charlies back into Bodia and Laos...does that mean I can go live in Saigon, that the Commies now call Ho Chi Minh City? And, that they will allow me to enroll in their elite university in Cholon? Hhmmm, don't think so. So, my point is...GET OVER IT and get a life.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
    • UNF05

      Why is it illegal to immigrate to America? I support a screening process, background checks, and proper ID, but damnit man; we are a country of immigrants.

      December 1, 2011 at 9:03 pm |
    • E

      There's also the concept of a labor vacuum. How many people do you think will want to do menial labor once they're all deported? On the flip side, what's regulating the employers who allow illegal immigrants?

      December 1, 2011 at 9:16 pm |
  26. chris

    What an absurd article. The author is acting like these are Jews seeking refuge from the Nazis. Oh, and the correct term is ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:17 pm |
    • Joe K

      I will say it again:
      Dude you have no idea what it's like to have Homeland security take you from your family in the middle of the night. They will lock you up in chains and ship you off to a hell hole of a jail, with no food, in Alabama. These people have everything to fear. In 2005 they lost the right to legal counsel that everyone else in this country has. And yes homeland security will take you away, you will not be gassed like the Jews in Germany, but you will face harsh conditions that is close to torture.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:17 pm |
      • ralph

        Sucks to be a felon.....

        December 1, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
      • Aeolien

        That’s nothing compared to what most other countries do to their illegal immigrants. A great example is Mexico, migrants routinely face rape, robbery and assault. Corrupt police and soldiers are known to abuse them and take their money.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:24 pm |
      • Megan K

        RIDICULOUS! Yes, they may be arrested and sent to jail and possibly even deported but they are not thrown into some make shift concentration camp like prison. You need a reality check, Hollywood is not REAL.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:28 pm |
      • You are delusional Joe K

        They feed you in prison. Also, it's bleeding hearts like you that let illegals use more tax dollars than they generate. Google how many emergency rooms were shut down in California because illegals bankrupted them.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:41 pm |
  27. Aeolien

    Those good working people should try and contribute and be an asset to their birth countries. Instead, they come here and take advantage of this country and the people that have built it. Americans have died to defend and build this great country for their OWN children. If an American is lazy, don’t worry they will not amount to much, the system will correct itself and there will be two more that are not. The people of the world don’t have a predestined right to be come here nor do we owe anything to anyone in the world.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:15 pm |
    • julien

      My great-grandparents were immigrants too...as yours might have been. Who in America is not a descendant of an immigrant?? probably a native american, pure blood.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
      • Gina

        My great grandparents were immigrants too.One huge diffrence they came through ELLIS ISLAND legally.They worked hard to gain citizenship and have never looked back.The difference is are you legally here or illegally?If illegally where are you getting your money?

        December 1, 2011 at 8:37 pm |
  28. Peter Q Wolfe

    I'm a senior in college living not too far from Georgia with another prospective. The dichetemony needs to be equally balanced between their parents being arrested and punished for harboring illegal children and allow their children or child to attend college or at minimum pay a huge penalty. Nothing without justice will last for very long. However, I don't want my future tax dollars to continue this mindless persuit of aiding and abeding anybody on Wall-Street, politicians with lobbyst, or illegal children gaining more than a net sum than what thier services rindor. Ilregardless of past Supreme Court cases, histories, etc for a sustainable equitable and fair America for all not for some exceptions that special interest desire.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:15 pm |
    • Bozobub

      "Future tax dollars"? You apparently don't realize that out-of-state residents (and illegals) pay FULL PRICE at any college, and are, in fact, NOT using your tax dollars for it. Oops! Fail.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:24 pm |
    • elle

      My gosh, with spelling, punctuation amd syntax like that, how are you ever going to graduate - let alone express yourself comprehensibly?! I could not even understand what you were trying to say! You might try writing in short, simple sentences; perhaps English is not your first language. I know it's frustrating, but please take a course in core composition for your own sake.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:43 pm |
    • UGA grad

      *perspective
      *dichotomy
      *regardless
      *abetting
      *persuit
      *lobbyst
      *their
      *render
      *interests

      December 1, 2011 at 8:46 pm |
      • You're too cute

        Puh-lease. Some people just can't spell, and it's got nothing to do with educational background. My husband is gifted in Physics, Calc, and Computer Sciences, but he can hardly spell words correctly, if they have more than 5 letters. You may have a humanities degree and be great at editing English papers, but chances are, you don't make my husband's salary!! hahahahaha

        December 1, 2011 at 8:58 pm |
  29. kaiv

    before you make a comment , stop and think that these people are doing all this, to get an education to study hard and become better assets to this society knowing that there is NO degree at the end of the rope, that no diploma or valid educational recognition can be granted to them but the mere an pure human satisfaction to achieve greatness! Admirable!!!

    December 1, 2011 at 8:15 pm |
    • MB

      Excellent comment!

      December 1, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
  30. grassleyhater

    The people like Sen Grassley are the biggest problem in this country. Grassley wake up!!!!

    https://www.numbersusa.com/content/node/12604

    December 1, 2011 at 8:14 pm |
    • Ramon F. Herrera

      NumbersUSA has been officially been designated a Hate Group. They were founded, and are funded by white supremacists.

      http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

      December 1, 2011 at 8:21 pm |
  31. cc

    Two of such things make for balance, and the word BALANCE
    totals 20.
    Many 20-words signify a collection:
    ARCANA: A collection of secret mysteries.
    OCEAN: A collection of water.
    FARM: A collection of animals and food.
    MUSEUM: A place that preserves and exhibits collections.
    MUSIC A collection of harmonic sounds.
    SUITE: A collection of rooms.
    TAROT: A collection of mystical cards.
    ZOO: A collection of animals on exhibit.

    is that education?

    December 1, 2011 at 8:14 pm |
    • Bozobub

      Who knows? Difficult to say, considering your post makes absolutely no sense.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:25 pm |
  32. AmericanBorn

    '*Boo Hoo* I SNEAKED into the country and they don't want to give me everything I THINK I deserve on a silver platter.'

    This is NOT a 'civil right's' issue, it is an issue of honesty. If I lie on my tax records I go to jail. Why is it not the same for these illegals? Send them back where they came from. There are too many bright AMERICAN young people who need those spots before some LYING CHEATING ILLEGAL.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
    • Bozobub

      Oh, yeah, the 10-year-old girl lied and cheated her way into the country. Mmhm. Tool.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
    • elle

      Why did you put an apostrophe after "rights?" Plurals do not need apostrophes. It's not "civil right's" it's civil rights. A plain old "s" is all you need to make a plural. I am seeing this more and more. Leave the apostrophes for the possessives.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:46 pm |
  33. buck cameron

    What a lot of hateful speech from people who most likely call themselves Christians. You might want to read Mathew 25:40 so that you're not taken by surprise when there's no pie in the sky for you.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
    • chris

      As a 'Christian', you have a responsibility to love your neighbor. If a man asks for your coat, give him your cloak as well. But nowhere in the Bible does it say that if a man asks for your coat YOU SHOULD TAKE EVERYONE ELSES CLOAKS AND GIVE THEM TO HIM. That is not your right as a human, and not your responsibility as a Christian. Quit trying to use Christian sympathy to marginalize an illegal activity.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:21 pm |
      • Mark

        Well said!!!! I wish more people could reason this well....

        I am against illegal immigration, but it's not because I don't care about people. Honestly, I think 99% of people who want strong immigration laws are just practical people who realize that the US can't subsidize everybody who crosses our borders illegally, takes jobs away from American citizens, and doesn't pay taxes. Money doesn't grow on trees in America, and it's time that we ALL stop acting like it does!!!!

        December 1, 2011 at 8:47 pm |
    • Larry Fisher

      What part of illegal dont they understand, send their asses on a slowboat to China or Chicago

      December 1, 2011 at 8:27 pm |
      • Bozobub

        By that very same logic, enjoy your trip back to Europe, invader. LOL

        December 1, 2011 at 8:48 pm |
    • Sue

      The Bible tells you to follow God's laws and the laws of the government.

      December 1, 2011 at 9:41 pm |
  34. hayley

    Can legal Americans go to this University too? I have a part time job and pay taxes, yet still can't even make enough to go to community college, but make too much to qualify for Finacial Aid, which some of my dman tax money goes towards. 😦 how backwards is that?

    December 1, 2011 at 8:11 pm |
    • bad2worse

      Been there-done that.
      Do what you can to further your education.
      Don't get distracted by these stories.
      Best advice I can give is to keep pushing and don't give up!
      Pressure and time will yield a diamond!

      December 1, 2011 at 8:25 pm |
  35. Joe K

    1814 the Indians (Native Americans) were exempted from Naturalization and Forced from Tribal their Land.

    BOTTOM LINE: the only true legal citizens of this great land (The Native Americans) were forced to become illegals

    So if you are a US citizen today, learn how you became one. Then perhaps you can learn how to get along with your fellow man that wants the American Dream just as much as you do.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:11 pm |
    • Danny

      Some how I knew this was one of those I am an illegal and my parents never did their due diligence to get me naturalized...
      I agree with the colleges the space should be allotted for students who are legally here in the U.S. IF there were open slots available and these kids were going to pay for their education then that would be a different story.

      I also though aspiring politicians was pretty funny, you probably need to be a citizen before you can be a politician right?

      As far as the Indians go, you can go back into every countries history and dispute who was there first....

      December 1, 2011 at 8:21 pm |
      • Bozobub

        Unfortunately for your argument, the Native Americans WERE here 1st. Debate all ya like, it'll only highlight your dire ignorance and bigotry.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:27 pm |
    • ML

      LOL! the "Native Americans" came to the United States from the Bering Strait! not only were they migrants from another continent but also raped and killed each other for territory and material possessions. WHAT MAKES THEM ANY DIFFERENT FROM YOUR ANCESTORS? i'm a first generation American and i can see overpopulation exploding around me. immigrants don't go to rural environments where there is plenty of land, they go to already populated cities and suburbs. plan to wait even longer in the ER in the future.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:37 pm |
      • Bozobub

        "Immigrants don't go to rural environments"..? Er, who do you think picks just about all the vegetables?

        December 1, 2011 at 8:49 pm |
  36. cc

    THE HIDDEN HAND OF GOD

    December 1, 2011 at 8:09 pm |
  37. John

    It's a shame that these fine professors can't help our disadvantaged Americans. And it's a shame that so many "citizens" side with the lawbreakers. Oh well, t'is the season for treason.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:09 pm |
    • Choy

      The spirit of the law is, no matter who you are, if you commit the same act you are liable to the same punishment. However, a lot of Cubans are rewarded with a green card automatically when they arrive at the US, no matter how they arrive. That's the problem with the law.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:56 pm |
  38. reagan80

    "Undisclosed location"??? "Safe to study"??? Just how paranoid are these people and how gullible does the author think we are? I live in Georgia. They can study on a street corner in Atlanta if they want. The nut who wrote the article makes it sound like they're Jews hiding out with Anne Frank. CNN doesn't care how ridiculous an article is if it's left wing.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:09 pm |
    • HarryCal44

      Awesome comment. Bonus points for the Anne Franke reference.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:15 pm |
    • Joe K

      Dude you have no idea what it's like to have Homeland security take you from your family in the middle of the night. They will lock you up in chains and ship you off to a hell hole of a jail, with no food, in Alabama. These people have everything to fear. In 2005 they lost the right to legal counsel that everyone else in this country has. And yes homeland security will take you away, you will not be gassed like the Jews in Germany, but you will face harsh conditions that is close to torture.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:17 pm |
    • buck cameron

      Reagan was well known for not being very bright. Glad to see that you're carrying on that tradition.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:17 pm |
  39. john

    it is a sad story for these kids, though these are AMERICAN PUBLIC schools. How can anyone justify turning away US citizens in favor of non citizens? It is not a question of race or bigotry. The very reason these schools were established was to educate Americans. We have to take care of our own before helping others, not the other way around

    December 1, 2011 at 8:08 pm |
    • reagan80

      And, what if it were race? We have no history of oppression of these people. We owe them NOTHING.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:10 pm |
  40. Yao

    Whether some of you want it or not, immigration reform will be passed in this country. Nice try trying to blame all the problems of this country on illegal immigrants. We didn't hear that many speak up when Reagan amnestied illegals in the 80s. this is stupid nonsense.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:08 pm |
    • reagan80

      I don't blame all of the problems of this country on illegal aliens. I blame them on the nuts who let the illegal aliens into the country.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:13 pm |
      • Ramon F. Herrera

        So you blame it on Ronald Reagan.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:23 pm |
      • Billy Boy

        Got your back, Reagan80!

        December 1, 2011 at 8:43 pm |
  41. rbud

    this country has one and only one problem.......Greed across the board everywhere you look, every industry, government official etc etc etc etc the problem is GREED

    December 1, 2011 at 8:07 pm |
  42. Josh

    Talk about an advocacy piece. Who can believe that a cash-strapped state would not want to subsidize costs related to people who ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THEIR STATE? Unbelievable that people so easily gloss over this determinative fact.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:06 pm |
    • Bozobub

      Apparently you have no clue at all about reality. In fact, IN-STATE. legal residents are the subsidized students. Everyone else pays full price, bub.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:08 pm |
      • James

        You seem to forget that these Universities are subsidized by US Tax dollars BOZO!

        December 1, 2011 at 8:14 pm |
      • Bozobub

        And those tax dollars subsidize resident students. In fact, the universities DEPEND on students who pay full, unsubsidized tuition, so your argument falls pretty flat.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:29 pm |
      • Billy Boy

        Yeah, and that's why they are called, "legal."

        December 1, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
      • Bozobub

        Wrong. Illegals pay full price as well. Complete fail.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:50 pm |
  43. Ramon F. Herrera

    Alabama's immigration law: Jim Crow revisited
    By Martin Luther King III

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/17/opinion/trumka-king-civil-rights-alabama/

    December 1, 2011 at 8:06 pm |
  44. Choy

    It reminds me of being a simultaneous interpreter in an underground church in certain part of Asia where preaching and worshipping were illegal.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:06 pm |
  45. teams33

    Why are they here?

    December 1, 2011 at 8:05 pm |
    • Ramon F. Herrera

      For the EXACT same reasons your ancestor came here.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:07 pm |
  46. Robert

    What's the point of studying and taking classes if there is no college degree to be earned at the end?

    December 1, 2011 at 8:04 pm |
    • Bozobub

      Oh, I dunno, gaining knowledge and expertise..? The piece of paper is just a panacea, it's the KNOWLEDGE and SKILLS that colege really is for. You seem to have forgotten that.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:04 pm |
    • MontanaTrace

      Knowledge gained is its own reward.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:07 pm |
    • Ramon F. Herrera

      I have diplomas for sale and was told you are interested. Pick any major and specialty.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:08 pm |
      • Choy

        I love your comment on Robert, well done.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:23 pm |
    • Choy

      The very purpose of education is to strengthen ourselves; a degree or a diploma allows us to make money. Our goal of education is essentially differing.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
    • Emily

      Um...to learn things? The diploma you get at the end is only a piece of paper, but the knowledge you have is the part that's important.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:16 pm |
  47. cc

    Order out of chaos, boston tea party, is there such thing as education. left H A R V A R D. im just an immigrant from a sun burnt country. Trying to understand why our scarab beetle parliament house needs defending.......OTO

    December 1, 2011 at 8:02 pm |
    • baatman74

      Boston tea party? That was tea company workers dressed as indians and coloniels dumping tea from rival companies. Had nothing to do with freedom or our revolt from great Britan, just sayin'.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:16 pm |
  48. mark

    The land that we livei on in American was by any modern law illegally obtained from the native people by lying cheating and stealing. The fore fathers said everyone was created equal. It is ridicukous to now set up barriers besically because we have something good so we she keep it to ourselves. One world one people.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:02 pm |
    • Billy Boy

      Hey, Mark. Was that you I saw in SF on the way home from Vietnam? Was that flowers growing out of your ears?

      December 1, 2011 at 8:50 pm |
      • Bozobub

        Being a Vietnam vet is no excuse for hate. Period.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:51 pm |
  49. Brian

    The only way the "teachers" can teach there at all for no salary is because they ROB THE REST OF US BLIND!!!!!
    OH And Don't Forget All The Taxpayer Dollars that go to subsidize their salaries and retire at 55 with full health benefits and State Provided Pension and all those "LEGALLY" ACCRUED TENURE @#$%>
    For that kind of a @#$%^&* DEAL, I'LL TEACH FOR FREE TOO!!!!!

    December 1, 2011 at 8:02 pm |
    • Bozobub

      Oh yeah, hate the teachers, that's wise. Tool.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:05 pm |
    • lisa

      What subsidized salaries and free health benefits? I am a teacher and I do not get that, nor will I. Please let me know where this is happening, I can relocate. FYI- after taxes and medical insurance- I make near what a cashier makes, so please do not say teachers make that much. On top of being in debt for a student loan so I can educate our youth. What is it you do sir to better our society?

      December 1, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
      • James

        Cashiers generally don't have a Union that will protect the incompetent ones among them. Stores unfortunate enough to be burdened with a union, have started "Self-Checkout" as a way to avoid having incompetent people working their cash registers. It is obvious, in the case of America's union run schools, we needs to either create a method for students to "self-educate" or settle for graduates that can't read their diploma.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:29 pm |
      • Billy Boy

        My, my, Lisa. I didn't have a student loan when I finished college in 1961 before Sam drafted my behind for the "Nam. You see, I had a full time job and I even bought another car because my dilapidated Chevy was destroyed in a racial riot...all while I was working. So, if it sounds like I do not sympathize with your position, it's because...I don't.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:58 pm |
    • Audrey

      That is pure foolishness, and totally untrue.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:15 pm |
    • Dolores

      A college professor with a Phd has a bare minimum of 8 years of college. Most have more. Professors are not exactly at the top of the US pay scale either. They teach college classes because they love it and like the perks that allows them to do research, explore, and to write.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:17 pm |
    • greencollarworker

      Teachers are vastly underpaid and overworked in the most important jobs in our country. Teachers are the builders of our human infrastructure.

      Only someone truly, rephehensively ignorant would support your position.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:20 pm |
  50. Ramon F. Herrera

    This country is what it is, thanks to immigration (legal AND otherwise).

    (No I do not condone illegal immigration – It is a tragedy, so much waste, displacement and suffering)

    December 1, 2011 at 8:01 pm |
  51. Shathouse

    These students are not unique in their drive to learn, and their drive to learn is not intrinsically unique. Learning about physics, biology, history, and so on did not help our ancestors survive or reproduce. Thus, the behavior to become educated is something that our increasingly civilized society has taught people to do in order get money. Money can generate almost anything that humans want- respect, power, love, luxury, security, and family. That's what these immigrants want- not to learn for learning's sake- they want the American dream. I really hope these generous professors aren't disillusioned to that fact.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:01 pm |
  52. maryam

    Only in A POLICE STATE one can see something like this.

    December 1, 2011 at 8:01 pm |
    • huskersrock1

      Actually EVERY country on earth have laws about who can enter its boarder and who can study in its schools. Name ONE country that offers a free education to every person that illegally enters.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:04 pm |
  53. Allen

    I am not an African-American, but I would be upset with every other group trying to coop the civil rights movement. These professors should be smart enough to realize that an illegal immigrant is not the same as a person born in the us of slave parents. The are two very different classes. If local government and citizens would recognize the problems associated with illegal immigration these types os stories would dry up.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:59 pm |
    • Josh

      I disagree with what you said. I think that both groups were looking for the same thing, and that is to be treated equally. Both groups still face face discrimination today. Is it so much to ask for to be treated like a human being?

      December 1, 2011 at 8:04 pm |
      • huskersrock1

        These people illegally entered the country. They committed a crime just to be here, they have a right to equal rights, in hteir country of citizenship.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:11 pm |
      • Josh

        Let's give a hypothetical situation. What if you lived in a country where everyday you lived in fear. Fear of being hurt, raped or even killed. Would you not do something to better your situation. People should not have to live in fear of being killed. What is worse in your opinion, being killed in your home country, or coming to America. I would hope you would say America. That is also not to mention that the majority of Americans came here illegally, this great land the we live on was once controlled by Native Americans. Why cant these people do the same thing that we did?

        December 1, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
      • huskersrock1

        How did that work out for the Indians? Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:49 pm |
      • Josh

        Can you explain what you mean. If you are implying that Native Americans are better off now then you are sorely mistaken. If that is not what you mean then I apologize, and I would like to continue this discussion, I just need some more clarification.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:56 pm |
    • Ramon F. Herrera

      Martin Luther King III disagrees with you. (in a recent CNN article). He says that immigrants are the new Blacks.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:04 pm |
      • BB GUN

        Ramon... You are obviously illegal or friends of illegals. Please turn yourself or those you are harboring, in...

        December 1, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
    • USnavysquid

      Why does a civil rights movement have to do be focused on african-americans? It's not a coop if its a completely different segment of the movement. Furthermore, obviously people are not noticing the problem of illegal immigrants so the stories will not dry up. And it's not because they are not noticing it. It is because they see the "problem" differently.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:06 pm |
    • hasc

      I agree, Allen. We have seen it over and over in groups that consider themselves victims (gay marriage advocates, wall street occupiers). They claim the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960's as their heritage, which is total bull.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:09 pm |
  54. TheMostInterestingManInTheWorld

    To be far the government is actively refusing the trash that washes up on our shores and seems to do a little bit of profiling when deciding to ship someone out. If they speak english and can show themselves to be contributing they might be shown some slack. The problem is my experience is watching what is going on in Houston. I suspect if Gingriches community board idea was adopted illegal persons would simply travel to blue states to be passed into the country. They would then move back to their state of illegal origin. That wouldn't be right, so therefore Gingrich is wrong. There's no middle ground. Either you consistently deport and require people to come back through the system and require the system have established quotas or you have no control over your borders.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:56 pm |
    • Bozobub

      Trash..? Wow, not even covert in your racism, are you?

      December 1, 2011 at 8:06 pm |
    • greencollarworker

      You don't always drink kool aid, but when you do you drink Tea Bagger brand?

      December 1, 2011 at 8:24 pm |
  55. NoTax

    libs are desis – working camp is prescription drugs

    December 1, 2011 at 7:56 pm |
    • Bozobub

      Say what? Take the marbles out of your mouth, son.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:10 pm |
  56. cc

    M A S O N A R Y
    is the virus that i have........hope there is a cure.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:56 pm |
    • Codepwned

      WTH does that mean? Spam bot?

      December 1, 2011 at 8:04 pm |
  57. RayJacksonMS

    They are criminals engaged in an illegal activity and the people who are helping them are accessories to a crime. I'm sure they are many more American kids that could benefit from these same classes yet these people chose to help foreign criminals instead.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:53 pm |
    • Bozobub

      Because it's OH SO HORRIBLE for people to donate their own free time and money to help others gain the means to help themselves. You, sir, are a Yahoo. Swift would laugh.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:59 pm |
      • Billy Boy

        Boozer, after reading you about three times herein, It is obvious to me that you have memorized a half dozen cliches, i.e. "yahoo," and you interpret it to me an MBA.

        December 1, 2011 at 9:13 pm |
    • boskoo

      Hiding are they ???? Must be crooks or pervs, why else would they be hiding??

      December 1, 2011 at 8:01 pm |
    • John

      Jealous American dropouts (80%) cannot stand more qualified, more intelligent foreign students. "Americans", why don't you go cut crops instead of Mexicans ?

      December 1, 2011 at 8:01 pm |
  58. Joe K

    A little history lesson for you:

    The USA is a Nation built on illegal immigration and criminals.

    The first illegal immigrants arrived on a boat in 1607 Beginning of Colonial Immigration; English Settlers Arrive in America. To the Native Americans the Settlers were illegal.

    1656 Quakers Become Illegal Aliens beginning in 1656 all of the New England Colonies, except Rhode Island, had legislation to prevent Quakers and the spread of their 'accursed tenets.' Whippings, imprisonment, banishment, and in a few instances capital punishment were threatened to discourage illegal immigration.

    Between 1717-1769 36,000 British Convicts were transported to America

    In 1808 The Slave Trade Became Illegal and 50,000 Slaves Became the First Illegal Aliens in the USA

    1814 the Indians were exempted from Naturalization and Forced from Tribal their Land.

    BOTTOM LINE: the only true legal citizens of this great land were forced to become illegals

    December 1, 2011 at 7:53 pm |
    • reagan80

      Come on. You're not as dumb as you're trying to sound.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:00 pm |
      • Bozobub

        But YOU are. Sad, really.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:07 pm |
    • Ramon F. Herrera

      Don't forget that 2/3 of America was somehow "obtained" from Hispanics: The Louisiana territory belonged to Spain (*) and the Southwest to Mexico.

      (*) Napoleon was dealing with stolen goods.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:11 pm |
      • Joe K

        Great point! That is correct, a lot of the USA was originally part of Mexico.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:21 pm |
      • BB GUN

        Yes, and MOST of Americans was taken from The native Indians. What's your point?

        December 1, 2011 at 8:24 pm |
      • Ramon F. Herrera

        "Great point!"

        There you go, Joe:

        December 1, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
      • Billy Boy

        Bottom line, Senor, "Remember the Alamo."

        December 1, 2011 at 9:15 pm |
    • Laurie

      Why don't these teachers volunteer to help serve some underpriviledged American kids? Why dont' these "students" apply to become naturalized citizens? Too difficult for them? Sorry, if I'm not more sympathetic; I've spent too many decades watching illegals turn our country into a third world cesspool in some areas; rob,steal and undermine everything they are involved in. And at a cost of over 300 to 400 Billion dollars a year to the American taxpayers? No sympathy here, they should all go back to their country of origin, or make the effort necessary to become legal citizens.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:19 pm |
      • Jessi

        our country is so selfish. it makes me ill.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:57 pm |
  59. 1gadawg

    wah wah wah, blah blah blah – they're illegal, end of story...

    December 1, 2011 at 7:52 pm |
    • bingo

      you got that right

      December 1, 2011 at 8:00 pm |
    • Bozobub

      AH, but luckily, YOU have no say in the matter, and it's NOT the end of the story. Hate 0, Hope 1.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:00 pm |
      • Laurie

        Yeah, Bellzebub, actually we are legal and can vote. We have everything to say about it'; you are trespassers, thieves and indolents; you rob, steal and undermine everything you touch. Go back to your own crappy country.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:21 pm |
      • Bozobub

        "My own crappy country"..? Born in Washington, D.C., you insufferable twit, and furthermore, quite Caucasian. Furthermore I steal and rob nothing, and have a job. DO you enjoy making yourself look like a complete moron, or is it just Tourette's? Maybe you're merely 12?

        December 1, 2011 at 8:35 pm |
      • Bozobub

        Oh, and by the by, "Bozobub" isn't a misspelled version of "Beelzebub". Calm down, bagger.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:36 pm |
    • teams33

      U gut dat rit !!!

      December 1, 2011 at 8:00 pm |
    • buck cameron

      big, big, bigot. End of story.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:03 pm |
    • LYNN

      You need to brush up on your vocabulary skills..... maybe that Korean girl Keish could teach you.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
    • dogs beat lsu

      1gadawgs: I doubt you have ever darkened the doors at UGA. It is a great school under incredible pressure from an ignorant legislature that is as corrupt as iran. Iran and the Georgia legislature are both pious, sanctimonious theocracies looking for a distraction. Mexicans in Georgia and Jews in Nazi Germany. Who will be next?
      Your papers please?

      December 1, 2011 at 8:27 pm |
  60. cc

    good to c, education not being justified by masonary & george w bush humanity desrves more.....;)
    thank you

    December 1, 2011 at 7:51 pm |
  61. Listen Here

    And prejudiced people thought the ONLY illegal immigrants trying to get an education were from MEXICO! Well, here's proving you Wrong, bubbas!!

    December 1, 2011 at 7:50 pm |
    • RayJacksonMS

      All this proves is some of the illegal foreign invaders aren't here because of danger in their own country. They are here breaking the law because they have no respect for America or the thousands of people from their own country trying to come here legally.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:55 pm |
      • yaifibar

        There is a law that these people have broken, but not all laws are right and moral. For instance there was a law requiring racially segregated facilities in 1950 Montgomery Alabama, so what Rosa Parks did was illegal, but I don't think anyone would say that she was in the wrong.
        People keep talking about the different incentives for immigration but it's really not that complicated. Here's the biggest reason that we have so much immigration: Because America is the greatest nation in human history. People want to live in the best country that they can. This is something that we should embrace, as we did for nearly a century. On the Statue of Liberty there's an inscription that reads "give me your tired your poor your huddled masses yearning to be free"and I believe that this is an ideal to be lived up to, not ashamed of.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:09 pm |
    • Rick

      The article was about the girl from Korea. If you look at the picture, most of the students appear Hispanic.

      I don't get this Freedom University thing. They are not pursuing a degree. They are not even going to a community college which is inexpensive even for non-residents and has access to better facilities and equipment. Basically, it looks like these are a group of kids usurped into becoming a political statement.

      I can't believe this was compared to segregation. There are thousands of other schools (and states) that they can go to. Meanwhile, when these professors are in this undisclosed buildings, there are probably students in their regular university classes trying to email them questions, waiting outside their office seeking help, etc.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:21 pm |
    • Mike, NH

      80% of illegals are from Mexico, and another 10% from the rest of Latin America who mostly get in through Mexico.. I'd say the stereotype fits.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:27 pm |
  62. TheMostInterestingManInTheWorld

    And for every Keish there are 5,000 undesirable immigrants stealing taxpayer funded services and undermining a sovereign country's economy and culture. Nice try though. Very well thought out angle to try and soften up domestic resistance to invasion. Dogs.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:50 pm |
  63. AnotherBC

    What is the reason these folks don't try to get into a private college?

    December 1, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
  64. Jim J

    And people wonder why America's falling behind. We make it impossible for Americans to pay for college, while educating fence-jumpers for free.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
    • yaifibar

      or it might be because when the best and brightest people who want to be Americans and contribute to our society try to do so we try to put them in another country. Immagine if we hadn't let in the Irish, or the Polish. Our country was built on immigration and that's not something that ended in 1900.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:56 pm |
      • BB GUN

        They were legal.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:25 pm |
      • Laurie

        Beginnig in the late 1800's, our country was built on LEGAL immigration; not an invasion of poor, uneducated illegals. We were not asked to support, educate immigrants; they were required to speak English; they had to be free of communicable diseases. They were required to have a trade to support themselves so as to not buden the country. A far cry from the people who crawl over the border with their hands out, demanding citiziens provide them with jobs, education, medical care, etc.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:27 pm |
    • Edwin

      Your utter ignorance is showing:

      1) if she were able to go to the public universities, she would pay THREE TIMES the amount that others pay. That is not free at all.

      2) And she came from South Korea. If her family were "fence jumpers," as you call them, that make them pretty special. What fence do we have between the United States and Asia?

      Bottom line: your statement is false and shows lack of thinking. There ARE arguments against letting illegal immigrants - possibly even those who were brought here against their will, at a young age - from attending university. But those arguments require real thinking, not ignorant sound bites.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:56 pm |
    • Josh

      There is no fence between South Korea and the United States. Also maybe the reason America is falling behing is because we are barring smarter students, who live in America and consider it their home, from attending College.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:57 pm |
  65. snowitz nowitz

    Hello, I have seen the hatred in some of the reply's. America has fallen behind because of these views. Those kids have the brains, that will be needed by our country. Our schools and teaching have fallen behind the rest of the world. These students looks like they are working hard. The average American has gotten fat and lazy. We need the injection of new thoughts, new blood to bring this country back up to standards that we once had. These people are what this country needs. This country is is moving ahead fast and so is the rest of the world. We have to mainstream these students for the good of our country. The rest is (B.S.) In both party's we have morons in office. We need better people, younger people in Congress and the Senate. We need people of quality learning and moral standing. That's it for me. I do not belong to any party.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
    • Edwin

      Hatred is not the only reason we're falling behind. We are also a nation that believes that experts are incompetent at determining policy. Our school system is designed by people who could not graduate from college - why do we think they are qualified to know what a good education looks like?

      We put D+ students in charge of governing states. No business would hire such a person as CEO, just because they are "folksy" and have charisma - well, no SUCCESSFUL business would. But Americans demand that - if our governors or presidents or legislators are perceived as too intelligent, we don't elect them. Somehow, we think dumber people are better suited to lead our great country than smart people.

      THAT is why we're falling behind.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:01 pm |
  66. Nunya

    I'm sure she's a nice girl and imminently worthy of educating. Too bad her parents didn't see fit to obey laws so that she would have the best opportunities. Let them all go through the proper channels and do things right.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:45 pm |
    • Josh

      In some instance it can take ouver 20 years to get into America through the proper channels. By this time that person would be over the college age. Many people do what they think is best for their children, and they decided to come into America because of that.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:59 pm |
    • Edwin

      Having just researched the issue, I have to agree with John. The strict U.S. immigration policy sets up quotas. For those unfortunate to have been born in high-profile countries like South Korea or Mexico, it is pretty near impossible to actually get legal immigration status.

      So... the choices were to come here illegally, or not come at all. Given the hostility now, it seems they made the wrong choice. But Americans did not always hate illegal aliens so utterly - at one point they were actually considered human beings by most Americans.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:04 pm |
      • elle

        Americans have hated immigrants throughout our history.The ones already here resented the hordes of poor new arrivals with their "greenhorn" habits and off accents and customs. My four grandparents came here from eastern Europe and they accepted hatred as part of the atmosphere. They worked in sweatshops just as today's immigrants do. Yes, my grandparents were legal, but they were scorned and held in contempt by the resident snobs and bigots. The bigots hated Native Americans and continue toi look down on them except when their art and possessions become become valuable as antiques.

        To support my belief that resentment of immigrants is racially based, I'be asked people how they would feel if the U.S. were being swamped by lanky young Scandinavians. Hm - not such a problem, eh? But actually, the Sandinavian immigrants in Minnesota, my home state, were also looked down on and called names like "Squareheads" and patronized and mocked... this is sure a mean-spirited country. Each and every one of us has a shot at being young and hungry for knowledge and building a life - I believe we owe it to all young people (and some old folks starting over too!) to open the doors to education and not play the "zero sum game" where one person's success takes something from me.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:59 pm |
  67. truth

    Probably 99% of the people arguing here have origins from other countries, native Americans had no laws to uphold when they where forced off their land. These kids are the not the reason gas and food prices go up, leaving you less money to use, invest, enjoy, etc. They are not the reason that hard earned money in 401k's was squandered in ridiculous investment schemes and that american jobs got outsourced. These kids are not the ones causing your problems. A law is a political point of view upheld by the people in power. It doesn't always mean it's the right thing. Govt. can be a hypocrite sometimes, it's a lot easier to get into the U.S. if you've got money to burn. The "american dream" died a long time ago.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:45 pm |
  68. GW

    I want to know why these Harvard/Amherst types aren't in the poor communities helping real, bona fide American children get a better education? Really? And, they're doing it for free? I guess they would charge an exuberant amount of money to go to a school that's disenfranchised huh? Traitors.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:45 pm |
    • Edwin

      So... you consider them traitors for helping human beings? You are really sick and twisted inside.

      I agree, it would be nice to help the poor. And we should. Our government continues to cut access to programs to help American citizens, so it would be nice to help them. I encourage YOU to help them.

      If you do help the poor, then you can try to set up a school, like these professors did. Otherwise, how dare you insult these professors for not doing what you can't be bothered to do yourself! Just because you were lucky enough to be born in a country with free speech and wealth beyond measure does not give you a moral right to condemn other people for helping undesirables in ways you think they do not deserve.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:10 pm |
    • human

      Because most bona fide american children take education for granted. You think hood rats from inner cities would study even though they knew their credits didn't count for anything? No, they would take the easy way out and steal and kill. Just saying.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:14 pm |
  69. rickd785

    What do you know? A ittle humanity in an otherwise inhumane state and region.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:43 pm |
  70. Legal Immigrant

    I dont care about Freedom University. Its a noble effort and I commend the teachers for helping. However, I do believe that illegal immigrants be sent back unless they have significant roots in this country or are unable to go back. We cannot hold these people here.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:42 pm |
    • peter

      I so agree with you

      December 1, 2011 at 7:48 pm |
    • mickey1313

      I dont even care about roots, what do people not understand about illigsl. I have met people who are second gen american and they cant speak english. If you cannot speak english it should be illigasl to work in the US

      December 1, 2011 at 7:49 pm |
      • Paul

        Skippy, you can't even SPELL and you're slagging the "illegals" who can't speak English?!! How American of you.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:01 pm |
      • AM

        Why should they have to speak English? English is not the official language of America. I know of towns that have been in existence long before becoming part of America, before English was widely used. Why should they have to change so you?

        December 1, 2011 at 8:12 pm |
  71. Jerry

    I know most are too lazy to look anything up so here
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

    December 1, 2011 at 7:39 pm |
    • Ramon F. Herrera

      Does this sheet work?

      December 1, 2011 at 7:45 pm |
    • Aeolien

      I looked it up. So what?

      December 1, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
    • Ramon F. Herrera

      Can I type bagger?

      December 1, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
    • Ramon F. Herrera

      Can I type violation?

      December 1, 2011 at 7:47 pm |
    • Ramon F. Herrera

      Can I type Wetback?

      December 1, 2011 at 7:49 pm |
    • peter

      Wikipedia, are you kidding? That info is not even peer reviewed, you need some Pedialyte!

      December 1, 2011 at 7:50 pm |
      • Ramon F. Herrera

        It is BETTER than peer-reviewed. It is peer EDITED.

        December 1, 2011 at 7:51 pm |
    • Ramon F. Herrera

      Ah! A bagger joined the audience... I always say that about 90% of the issues from anti-immigrants (anti-Hispanic, whatever) can be easily addressed with time travel.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:52 pm |
  72. Bill

    Sounds fair to me. If a qualified applicant (here legally) wants the spot they should get it. If an opening exists that no legal applicants are going after let the illegal immigrant have it. What'a wrong with that?

    December 1, 2011 at 7:38 pm |
    • AndyTheGameInventor

      Bill, it sounds fair until you stop to think that the girl in this story, who was 10 years old when she was brought over here by her parents, has done nothing wrong. People always refer to "illegal" immigrants as if people could be ilegal – but in our system of laws only actions are illegal. If her parents came here illegaly, they were in violation of law, but US law requires, among other things, a Mens Rea (the intentional desire to do the action) in order to commit a crime. I don't think most judges would rule tha a 10-year old voluntarily and knowingly chose to immigrate illegally. In other words, the child did not commit any offense, and we are not a nation that punishes people for the acts of their parents or children or friends (ignoring for the moment "gang enhancements" in sentencing).

      Imagine if your child was refused entrace to university because you (not they) had committed some offence many years ago. Would you not be rightfully outraged?

      December 1, 2011 at 8:03 pm |
  73. Aeolien

    Those good working people should try and contribute and be an asset to their birth countries. Instead, they come here and take advantage of this country and the people that have built it. Americans have died to defend and build this great country for their OWN children. If an American is lazy, don’t worry they will not amount to much, the system will correct itself and there will be two more that are not. This country therefore is for OUR children. All the world does not have a right to live here, nor do we have to give anyone anything.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:38 pm |
    • Karlo

      So true

      December 1, 2011 at 7:49 pm |
    • Bozobub

      Funny. So what do you have to say about out ancestors, who showed up unasked on the borders, eh? Well?

      December 1, 2011 at 8:15 pm |
      • Billy Boy

        "Well", did you say? Well, I have read enough of your mental saliva. I have a solution for your frustration with the legits' in the USA not wanting the illegals here. I am mailing you a one-way Greyhound bus ticket to Tijuana. When you arrive, YOU can buy an amigo a Greyhound ticket to southern Cal. I can support that swap. Adios.

        December 1, 2011 at 9:41 pm |
  74. Joe K

    This is pure discrimination. I hope people in this country come to their senses. This is the white man born in the USA exercising his power. Doesn't really matter if you are an immigrant (any color), a Native American (who theoretically should have the most rights), or an African American (whose ancestors where brought to this country against their will), if you are not a white man born in this country you will be discriminated against.

    Perhaps it's time for the Red Man to take over.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:38 pm |
    • Legal Immigrant

      Huh ? What are you on ? You dont sound right in the head. The FBI will be visiting you soon enough...

      December 1, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
    • Chief Strong Bow

      Go for it, boy.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:49 pm |
    • Gray

      Right on BC! I'll repeat your note: BC
      Nice job tying this into a policical battle you tool. Go serve your master, puppet man. These kids are our future wheter you like it or not. Look at their passion to learn. Not everyone can afford that kind of tuition. If a kid grows up here and kicks ass at school they deserve a seat.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:56 pm |
  75. Reality

    Another boo-hoo story from CNN. The day wouldn't be complete without some oppressed village/race/group that can't live by the rules. AlJazeera is less biased.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:37 pm |
    • teams33

      U gut dat rit.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
  76. Jerry

    Another point they claim they can not make all of them leave this country well seems they did not check history after the second world war President Ike did just that look it up

    December 1, 2011 at 7:37 pm |
  77. Jerry

    So no other country in the world has schools they can attend even the ones they came from. I seem to recall
    the University of Mexico was a top school so why can they go back to home land for school and your saying south
    korea has no college stop these bleeding heart stories in attempt to justify illigals

    December 1, 2011 at 7:34 pm |
    • Bozobub

      Considering your obvious ignorance and lack of spelling and grammar skills, I can't help but discount your opinion as the blind ravings of a Yahoo.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:16 pm |
  78. Ed FL

    More than likely they are smarter than most Georgia professors and they would not make any progress in the State that isn't known for it's intellect.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:34 pm |
  79. Joe Murphy DPO

    Talk about aiding and abetting. The illegals should be deported and their accomplices should be charged. This is worse than an employer knowingly hiring illegals.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:33 pm |
    • Sethr

      You are an idiot.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:44 pm |
    • teams33

      You are correct Joe.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:47 pm |
    • Chief Strong Bow

      Let them put their degree on a resume. LOL

      December 1, 2011 at 7:51 pm |
    • Dave

      You are correct, Seth

      December 1, 2011 at 8:00 pm |
    • Bozobub

      Because educating people in your free time is bad HOW, exactly..? Well?

      December 1, 2011 at 8:17 pm |
  80. TheRationale

    I was never a fan of Malcolm X, although I did like one thing about him:

    Interviewer: What's your alma mater?
    X: Books.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:33 pm |
  81. gretchen

    ...and what is the message we are (again) supposed to take from this? that we who abide by laws are the bad guys?

    December 1, 2011 at 7:33 pm |
    • Anon

      ...no. The point is that the policy should be changed. Criticizing policy doesn't amount to a personal attack on you or anyone else. Statements like this are what's wrong with policy deliberation in the US.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:58 pm |
    • Hawksmoor

      Did it ever occur to you that legality doesn't always equate morality? Owning slaves was legal at one time too. Does that mean it was right and just, even at the time? The xenophobia and inhumanity directed at these people is nothing more than bigotry, and citing the law is a feeble attempt at justifying said bigotry. They are human beings, first and foremost, despite you and others talking about them as though they were inhuman vermin.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:02 pm |
  82. ezequiel

    great, get an education with out a life time debt ... cool

    December 1, 2011 at 7:32 pm |
  83. Joshua Allen

    These folks are here illegally, and are therefore in violation of the law. I have no sympathy for them, as no one put a gun to their head and forced them to move here. Especially the middle-class South Korean girl.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:30 pm |
    • Aaron McCauley

      I fail to see how a ten year old girl has any control over her parents decision to move to America, even if it was in her own interest. Why should she be held culpable for something she had no control over?

      December 1, 2011 at 7:53 pm |
    • Moira

      So the 10 year old girl was supposed to say to her parents, "no you two go on, move to the US and leave me here, I don't want to break a law"? She had no control over being brought here, and now she's stuck.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:00 pm |
    • turquoise

      Middle class?? Did you see the annual income figures on their tax returns? They were low. They are not middle class.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
  84. Ramesh

    I am a Legal Indian American. I agree that only LEGAL IMMIGRANTS need to get benefits extended by our system. I paid my dues to get my legal status (worked my ass off for 7 years with a company to get my Green Card)...paid my taxes to Uncle Sam and to my state, county and school system...My kids arr doing extremely well in high school and they know what it takes to succeed LEGALLY in this country. I support the RULE OF THE LAW and the LAND...and I hate anything illegal...All illegal immigrants should have thought about it when they first made their illegal move to come to this country...they can't cry about it now...whether it is Latinos, Asians, Africans or INDIANS....Go US..Keep deporting ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND MAKE IT WORTHWHILE FOR THE REST OF US HERE..

    December 1, 2011 at 7:30 pm |
    • misstrixie

      You are an awesome American and a great role model for your kids:)

      December 1, 2011 at 7:32 pm |
    • AgreewithRamesh

      I agree with Ramesh. There should be deterrents to illegals. Although these so called hero's offer to teach these people for free might think they are doing a service, they are actually promoting the influx of illegals. As long as there is no deterrent and life is better over here, illegals will continue to come.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:36 pm |
      • relw

        i dont think you got a very good education. indians are asians.

        December 1, 2011 at 7:49 pm |
    • Tm

      I applaude you...

      December 1, 2011 at 7:40 pm |
    • Bill

      Thumbs up to you Ramesh

      December 1, 2011 at 7:40 pm |
    • jethro

      shut up rajiv. this is a country of immigrants...I find it interesting how so many new money immigrants like you turn out to be such fascists. Go back where you came from.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:41 pm |
      • Anon

        A little strong. (And you shouldn't throw around the word "fascist" so easily). But there's definitely truth to what you say. If the system requires immense amounts of money and seven years of working to become a citizen, there's something wrong. That's simply not feasible for the vast majority of people who want to come here.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:04 pm |
      • Yao

        Thanks Jetho. Same thoughts here.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:11 pm |
    • yaifibar

      I absolutely agree with you there we need to put an end to illegal immigration. It's completely ridiculous to have such intense regulation and say that people who want to come to America, pay taxes, and not hurt anyone, shouldn't be allowed to do so without a lengthy bureaucratic process. The problem isn't that they're here, because that doesn't harm anyone or violate their rights, but that they're not allowed to be here. Illegal immigration is a terrible concept that we really need to get rid of.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:43 pm |
    • teams33

      I agree.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:49 pm |
    • beau

      You are luck to have the opportunity to get a green card. It's a human nature to exploit their horizon. I'm glad you are legal and your children are doing well. Most others are not lucky like you to have the support and opportunity to gain access to USA. Read the story and lower your LOUD CAPS OPINIONS. You sound racist, you are no special than any these kids.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:54 pm |
    • Anon

      What most of these comments fail to acknowledge is that because these kids were not legal residents of Alabama, they pay out of state tuition...which is the not subsidized by taxes....so they weren't "getting a free ride on tax-payers backs". But since they're banned the spots potentially went to a less qualified student. Sound ridiculous to me.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:01 pm |
    • Yao

      Ramesh,
      Youn are an idiot plain and simple.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:04 pm |
    • human

      It's amazing how righteous you feel about immigrating to the US. I didn't know becoming a new citizen automatically made you extremely selfish and arrogant. You do know that your own country takes a lot more jobs from US workers than Mexicans do right? So please just shut up and keep your hate to yourself.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:25 pm |
    • Manoj

      To Fooooool Ramesh ,
      You are shame on Indian community. You stink like as*.
      It is not about your great struggle to become citizen .. It is about humanity..........alright.
      You are impotent computer digger who don't have kids and don't understand kid's perspective.
      Education is not labeled for citizen or non citizen..
      Only way to get return on tax dollar spent on colleges/Universities is to provide good.
      Education to students (Irrespective of class creed or Immi status)
      If they get good education and contribute to economy then only you will get $ return.
      Education is for all... Indian wisdom says
      Get knowledge from all direction and from everybody
      Spread knowledge in all direction and to all ....
      Hence you may be convert brown colored red n** but don't identify as Indian.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:32 pm |
    • Proud to be legal immigrant

      Exactly!!! We are too legal immigrants raising our 2 kids in this country. We worked and worked to keep our work visa legal. Studied here, paid fee, paying taxes, following the law. It is a priviledge to become a citizen of this country.

      I can not understand how someobody can break the law of the country that they want to become a citizen of? What part of illegal they don't get. Who is keeping track of how much these peopel make and how much tax they pay. They get a cash job and don't show their income to pay tax. They get all the free benefits, healthcare, education, food stamps and then they demand to become a citizen??

      If they get it then it clearly shows that crossing the border is much more better than following the rules.

      December 3, 2011 at 11:23 pm |
  85. Sheila

    If I was in your house illegally, living in the basement, sneaking around so I didn't get caught, I wouldn't have ANY rights, even if I was living a really good life otherwise. This is no different.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:30 pm |
    • Ramon F. Herrera

      "If I was in your house illegally, living in the basement"

      Sheila, you need to go back to school and demand a refund. Next, you should read and learn the differences between a house and a country, because your statement is based upon their equality. I will give you some freebies:

      – A house is normally much smaller than a country.

      – Countries do not have roofs, basements or windows. They may have walls, though.

      – Houses cannot be members of the UN.

      – Countries are not listed in real state guides.

      Comprende ahora?

      December 1, 2011 at 7:39 pm |
      • Laurie

        Ramon;
        Your condescending response to Sheila is off the mark. Her analogy was a thief breaking into one's house and living there for free; much like illegals do when they steal into the United States without going through the proper channels, and demand that everything be given to them.

        You only make yourself look foolish.

        December 1, 2011 at 9:38 pm |
    • MC

      I think an illegal helped build my house ...

      December 1, 2011 at 7:41 pm |
      • Ramon F. Herrera

        "I think an illegal helped build my house ..."

        I think illegal immigrants have helped build this country, with more sweat, blood and tears than MOST legal citizens.

        December 1, 2011 at 7:57 pm |
    • Hawksmoor

      If we are to follow your analogy Sheila, then we need to remember that our European ancestors came here to the native Americans' "house" and forcibly evicted them, without any concern for their laws, culture, or history.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:05 pm |
      • Laurie

        That was 300 years ago; this is now. Just a little bit different society than back then, eh? Please stay on topic; what people did three hundred years ago is in no way related to enforcing immigration laws in 2011.

        December 1, 2011 at 9:34 pm |
  86. Mary Kaye

    This couldn't be any wronger. Where is the free college education for MY kids who were born here, to parents who were born here. My family pays their taxes, follows the rules, does everything they're supposed to do but when it comes to college, my husband and I will have to go into major debt – there is no retirement in our future – and my kids will still have to work to go to college. I have no sympathy for these people, what have they done to deserve this wonderful gift that my kids won't get?

    December 1, 2011 at 7:29 pm |
    • MC

      The state could let them pay tuition and attend universities like the other students in Georgia. As for the rest, well I wish we would start investing in affordable education for our US-born kids, stabilize retirement for Americans, stop the enormous flow of resources to wars, and reform a system that rewards people for coming up with ever more bizarre financial schemes or aggressive corporate raids – but I can't blame illegals for any of that, they can't even vote ...

      December 1, 2011 at 7:40 pm |
    • JNC

      Wronger? Really? You need to go back to 2nd grade. Clear example that an American can't speak his/her own language!

      December 1, 2011 at 8:07 pm |
      • Jessi

        your average Republican. ME, ME, ME what can you do for ME?

        December 1, 2011 at 9:07 pm |
  87. BooseyBoo

    i find it interesting that if her parents could get tax I.D. numbers, which the government routinely gives to immigrants, and paid their taxes why it is an issue for her. I am sure that many immigrants who come here legally with children might face the same issues but why was she not here legally?

    December 1, 2011 at 7:28 pm |
  88. Eric Guaftson

    The shame of the policy is that Georgia as turn back the clock to the policies of the segregated south to deal with a 21 century problem. Is this the example of taking America back as so proudly touted by the Tea Party advocates?

    December 1, 2011 at 7:27 pm |
    • James

      HOW DARE YOU compare the racist policies of segregation, with the very, fair policies of the United States that we do not pay to education foreign students!

      December 1, 2011 at 7:34 pm |
      • Ramon F. Herrera

        State schools are built with state taxes. Illegal immigrants pay state taxes.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:16 pm |
      • Ramon F. Herrera

        Martin Luther King III disagrees with you, James.

        http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/17/opinion/trumka-king-civil-rights-alabama/

        December 1, 2011 at 8:18 pm |
      • Laurie

        Illegal immigrants are paid under the table; with the exception of sales taxes, they pay no withholding, no federal taxes, no social security taxes. They are a net drain on American taxpayers to the tune of 300 to 400 BILLION dollars a YEAR. You can cry about them all you want; but they are illegal lawbreakers who dont't seem to think it's important enough to become naturalized citizens. They can go stand in line behind the people trying to come here LEGALLY.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:48 pm |
    • Laurie

      Georgia has turned it's back on the policies and is reverting to antebellum laws and discrimination? Get a grip, Eric, this is nothing like that. These people are criminals, or don't you understand the meaning of the law? They have trespassed on our soil; they steal, lie and cheat their way into our jobs,and our benefits, then demand we speak their language and ignore their wrongdoing. Do not equate Georgia's attempt to stem the tide of illegals and enforce our laws as somehow akin to the segregationist south. That is a false comparison; illegals are lawbreakers; blacks were brought here against their will. There is no comparison.

      December 1, 2011 at 9:32 pm |
  89. Education Failure

    America used to be great. Not anymore. Because of bully, racism, union teachers, failing school, etc..... No idea where is America heading.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:26 pm |
    • Scarabus

      If education is so bad, if it is failing so much... Why the heck does her parents want her to be educated here? Shouldn't South Korea be the place to get a better education?

      I mean seriously, if the US education is terrible; why is this a problem?

      December 1, 2011 at 7:59 pm |
  90. misstrixie

    I feel bad that the kids had irresponsible parents who recklessly broke our laws. They are paying the price. If we got rid of our anchor baby policies then maybe illegal immigration will seem less appealing.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:25 pm |
    • Laurie

      Thank you, Miss Trixie. The 14th Amendment was never intended to naturalize anyone who gives birth on our soil. No other country does-if you are not a legal citizen of any other country in the world, you citizenship stays with you whereever you are born. Illegals have abused the generosity of our citizens to the point that one in seven births in 2009 was to an illegal alien. One in seven. See: Pew Hispanic Study on determining how many "anchor" babies are born in the US every year. And most of them are paid for by we taxpayers. Nice to know you can sneak in here, give birth multiple times ande never have to pay a cent for the services you just ripped off. Then we reward you with citizenship, and thousands of dollars of free benefits not available to legal hard-working American citizens.

      December 1, 2011 at 9:21 pm |
  91. smbuchanan

    The person who allows them to go to the building and the scholars teaching them should be arrested for harboring illegal immigrants. No wonder we can't get them out of OUR country. How about volunteering their time to teach Legal children, no they can't do that. Screw 'em.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:24 pm |
    • Be Considerate

      Ah, Shut Up Already, smbuchanan with your Prejudice! It is most admirable that these professors are donating their time to teach and educate these fine folks on how to Be Somebody, instead of having undereducated people walking the streets. You should be more considerate of that!

      December 1, 2011 at 7:44 pm |
    • Bozobub

      "Our" country..? So, apparently, the Native Americans weren't here 1st? News to me.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:21 pm |
    • Laurie

      Hey Be Considerate; Why don't you shut up; illegals are destroying our country, sucking up benefits they never paid for, take seven to eight million jobs Americans can and will do; they destroy public education by requiring ESL teachers, special classes, robbing our own children of the education their parents are taxed for; and most have no interest in becoming citizens. Thousands become naturalized citizens every year; why don't they? These are not the kind of people we want to invite into our country; it is still OUR country, and you all who think it's a great idea to allow mlllions and billions into our country and rob the tax payers to pay for them, should have your head examined.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:53 pm |
  92. Eric Guaftson

    Excellent idea to prepare the students for the CLEP exams. CLEP is the most widely accepted credit-by-examination program in the U.S. today, helping students of all ages earn college degrees faster by getting credit for what they already know. By receiving a satisfactory score, your child can earn from 3 to 12 college credits toward his college degree for each CLEP he takes, depending on the exam subject.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:23 pm |
  93. KeepAmericaAmerican

    I hate to sound harsh, but Joe, you're right. 😦 except for the last part blaming things on Democrats. Get off my party, sucka.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:20 pm |
  94. Flo

    I'd like to see all of you walk a mile in their shoes and see if you come close to what they have achieved. This is the one thing I hate about Americans, they only choose to see their own side of the story and don't bother with the other side. Americans are capable of doing a lot, but how is it possible when the American kid next door is a lazy SOB and his neighbor is a foreigner who works his ass off everyday and is able to achieve that American Dream? I find it embarrassing since the US kid has the resources to succeed. If foreigners can do it, so can you! Face it, Americans are getting lazier and lazier. Then they come whinning on how too many good working people coming to their land...

    December 1, 2011 at 7:19 pm |
    • Tiff

      I have no problems with any person who comes here to work and follow the rules.. ALL THE RULES.. the rules say you must be legal with either a green card or become a citizen. The Regent's rule says that if there are no other LEGAL applicants then the illegals will be considered.. It does not say a blanket no.. It is not the fault of the regent that many qualified legal applicants are chosen to fill the open slots.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:24 pm |
      • John Gabriel

        The problem with rules is that people like you forget rules are made for people. People are not made for rules.

        As long as they have committed no crimes, they are 1000 times better than most lazy, stupid and fat S.O.B. Americans.

        December 1, 2011 at 7:31 pm |
      • Ramon F. Herrera

        "I have no problems with any person who comes here to work and follow the rules."

        You have serious problems with our founders, then.

        December 1, 2011 at 7:34 pm |
      • Laurie

        Hey John Gabriel-racist much? Lazy, stupid and fat Americans? Why dont you go back to your joke of a country instead of trying to mess up ours? Your kind are not welcome.

        December 1, 2011 at 8:56 pm |
    • Aeolien

      Those good working people should try and contribute and be an asset to their birth countries. Instead, they just come here and take advantage of this country and the people that have built it. Americans have died to defend and build this great country for their OWN children. If an American is lazy, don’t worry they will not amount to much, the system will correct itself and there will be two more that are not. This country therefore is for OUR children. You want to become an American just follow the immigration laws.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:34 pm |
      • Just Saying

        I agree with most that you're saying. Love the idea of these smart kids contributing to their country. However, you say they "come here," like it's their evil plan. Some very smart kids from other countries are funded by their countries to come to America and get top-tier educations. Then, they are forced to go back to their counties and use that education to...oh, I don't know...build bombs, nuclear programs....etc. IRAQ is the perfect example. Smart Iraqi kids sent to U.S. to learn physics...etc...obligated to go back and work for Sadaam. Learn about the ones that refused to go back and have contributed great things to our country.

        December 1, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
    • teams33

      PALEZZEEEEEE.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:51 pm |
      • Larry Fisher

        DEPORT THEIR ASSES

        December 1, 2011 at 8:29 pm |
  95. jamesd

    This is crazy–Let them go to school–

    December 1, 2011 at 7:16 pm |
    • Chris

      Thing is, it's not just a matter of "letting them go to school" but whether an American (or someone here legally) will be declined to accomidate an illegal alien. Read the article – illegals are only denied enrollment if a qualified citizen or legal resident would be denied in favor of them. I don't have a minute's problem with this. If there are open spots and no qualified legal applicants, by all means, let illegals enroll (which is the GA policy). Are you comfortable with a legal US citizen or resident being passed over for a spot at UGA because of an illegal alien with a good test score?

      December 1, 2011 at 7:26 pm |
    • Laurie

      Hey JamesD-you want to pay for them? The rest of us have for over 12 years and we are sick of it. Education costs approximately $12,000 per K-12 student per year. Citizens pay property taxes, income taxes and other taxes to support THEIR children's education. The illegals simply take from the American taxpayer and demand more. Enough of the theft of our own children's education by illegals and the congressmen who refuse to do anything to correct our porous border and our emply wallets.

      December 1, 2011 at 8:59 pm |
      • Ramon F. Herrera

        Illegal folks pay more taxes than you, Laurie. SS tax is deducted and they never see a penny. They pay state taxes and cannot go to school. Their taxes pay police protection that they do not get, for being scared to denounce anything. WE are cheating them. They are helping build America with more sacrifices than most people.

        December 1, 2011 at 10:56 pm |
  96. joe

    Good for Georgia.

    The children should be mad at their parents for putting them in a situation where they are unable to receive a college education.

    Georgia is doing the right thing ensuring that real citizens have seats in their classes, and that illegal aliens are not taking those seats.

    The door is open for each of those 'stiudents' to leave and reapply as foreign students, but like anything else, they won't do it because there's hope a Democrat will sell out the real citizens for an illegal aliens vote (because they do vote and always for Democrats).

    December 1, 2011 at 7:15 pm |
    • BC

      Nice job tying this into a policical battle you tool. Go serve your master, puppet man. These kids are our future wheter you like it or not. Look at their passion to learn. Not everyone can afford that kind of tuition. If a kid grows up here and kicks ass at school they deserve a seat.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:29 pm |
      • HL

        Illegals are the future of America? So, once they got a college education, but without the ability to legally drive, get a home loan, or hold a job they'll what? Probably leave the country if they were smart and take the state subsidized education with them.

        How can a non-citizen ever hope to accomplish anything when their first act as an adult is to flaunt the law. It's an old adage but freedom is taken away from us a bit at a time. It happens when moral people ignore laws because of a sob story, or because its inconvenient. Illegals aren't following the rules. Love the rules, hate the rules, but the public does not serve foreigners with benefits unless they apply for special status, pay their taxes, and work within the system. America was made by, and built for, Americans.

        December 1, 2011 at 7:47 pm |
      • Laurie

        BC
        Then you pay for their K-12 education, it's about 12K per year, times 12 equal about $144K. I don't pay my taxes so anybody in the world who sneaks in here can have a free education on my dime. Go fish.

        December 1, 2011 at 9:01 pm |
      • Sue

        Why do you think it's all afree ride. Legal is LEGAL!

        December 1, 2011 at 9:56 pm |
  97. aric

    Most everyone posting here was fortunate enough to be born in the greatest country on Earth (or brought here by their parents). In other words, you got lucky. Don't look down on people who aren't so lucky (particularly ones like these amazing kids) or pretend that you are somehow better than them. These are young men and women risking their safety to learn in hopes of being able to someday become a legal, successful, educated American.

    I have a wife and 2 kids and, if I was in one of these other countries and had no legal means to better secure their future you better believe I would try to get them here illegally to help protect them and provide a better life. If you can build the wall high enough, good for you but it's not 1920 anymore. It's extremely hard to get the US legally. Of all the problems the US has right now these kids are not one of them and I'm rooting for them. That said, I'm rooting even harder for legal young Americans fighting their way down the same path. There are many millions of young, legal Americans (albeit with their own issues) who gave up on a free education (whether their fault or not) and turned to REAL crime. That's the issue that will ultimately determine if the US goes down or not.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:11 pm |
    • John Smith

      Let's see... Highest incarceration rate in the world and heavily racialized prison system; growing inequalities between an extremely rich upper class and a poorer middle class; legacy of bloodsheds and human rights abused around the world; history of slavery and racism; etc...

      So no, America is not "the greatest country in the world". I like Canada much more, thank you.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:19 pm |
    • Blu the CEO

      aric,

      that type of thinking is what will have a criminal put a gun to your back and make you withdraw money from the ATM. why you ask? Because the criminal is desperate who has a "family" to take care of. They have just applied your thinking. Now...because he is hungry and desperate, it is OK to rob you of your hard earned money because it is OK to break the law to benefit my family!!! Where do we draw the line??? It is NEVER acceptable to break the law! NEVER!!!

      December 1, 2011 at 7:21 pm |
      • rc

        But when conservative threaten secession, that's patriotic, right?

        December 1, 2011 at 7:23 pm |
      • aric

        I don't know of a parent who wouldn't break just about any law to protect their family. We don't want to put ourselves in their shoes because then things get morally confusing (and we don't have to so heck with it). By the way, your comparison of these young people sneaking around to get an education so they can better themselves with armed robbers is priceless.

        December 1, 2011 at 7:41 pm |
    • rker321

      Fine, let's help these children, and all the 11 million of illegal immigrants, My question to you is, then what?
      Do we continue to have the problem of illegal entry in this country. can we as a country continue to afford to have another 11 million of illegals in the US. ? what is there that the government should do.?

      December 1, 2011 at 7:28 pm |
    • Aloisae

      It may be "extremely hard to get to the US legally" but it is much easier than it is to get into the majority of countries in the world. The United States allows in more legal immigrants each year than ANY other country in the world and we allow more of these immigrants to become citizens. We also are in the small minority of countries in the world where the children born here to illegal immigrants are automatically granted citizenship... in most countries citizenship at birth is only granted jus sanguinis (if the parents are citizens) and not jus soli (by being born there). The United States, as with every other country in the world, has a right to control its immigration and being one of the most welcoming countries in the world to legal immigrants should not require us to just open our borders to anyone who wants to come here nor should it require us to let illegal immigrants jump ahead of legal immigrants.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:42 pm |
    • Aeolien

      Don’t say turned down free education. High school diploma is not worth anything and going to a major university costs tens of thousands. Don’t forget the kids of illegal immigrants that turn to a life of crime.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:59 pm |
  98. flo

    I'd like to see all of you walk a mile in these people shoes. One thing I hate about Americans is that they don't see both sides of the issue. Put yourself in their position and then tell me that you wouldn't do the same thing–coming to Land of the Free to pursue the American Dream...

    December 1, 2011 at 7:10 pm |
    • rker321

      This is not a matter of compassion, it is a matter of law. We have now in this country 11 million illegal individuals that have come without papers and have stayed.
      Let's say that now we provide to all of the ones that are here legal status and eventually a path to citizenship. what about 5 years from now, do we go thru the same process all over again.
      Reagan introduced Amnesty to all illegals that were here in the US for a period of years, 15 years from that date.we have now 11 million more that have come in since that time. No country can afford this situation economically. We need to fix the Immgration laws and them come to a solution as to what to do with the ones that are here already.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:47 pm |
  99. Kevin

    They should become citizens, and pay appropriately (taxes, tuition) for the benefits they receive in the USA. Rather than whining about being shut out, they should figure out what they need to DO in order to get in. That's what the rest of us [US citizens] have to do. Fair is fair. This is not a racial, ethnic or nationalist issue - it's just a matter of fairness. This article is twisted propaganda.

    December 1, 2011 at 7:10 pm |
    • rc

      They pay out of state tuition, which is 3 times in state tuition. Next?

      December 1, 2011 at 7:16 pm |
    • AJ

      The article points out that they paid their taxes, and they would pay three times the tuition of other students if not for the change in the law.

      December 1, 2011 at 7:20 pm |
      • rker321

        I wish that they would clarify as to what taxes do they pay. I imagine they pay sales taxes, and taxes are taken out of their checks if they work. But, after that do they actually file IRS taxes every year?

        December 1, 2011 at 7:49 pm |
    • JustMe

      The article says that her parents got tax ID numbers when they came here and paid taxes. Next?

      December 1, 2011 at 7:35 pm |
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