August 27th, 2012
04:52 PM ET

Students' Obama cartoons spark uproar

A teacher was fired after hanging what some are calling offensive political cartoons in the school hallway. WDSU video

What do you think?  Do you agree or disagree with the decision to fire the teacher over this assignment? Watch the video and post your comment below.

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  1. Taxpayer

    Wow...was this teacher a member of the teachers' union? I guess not, or else they could not have been fired!

    September 5, 2012 at 7:20 am |
  2. ah pimp name slick back

    omg i bet if it was a wite president he wouldent tell them to draw nothing like that i just cant bealive this my lord

    August 31, 2012 at 10:52 am |
  3. Libtards

    We're all you retards complaining when people drew pictures of Bush? Were you retards crying when tax funded "art" consisting of a crucifix in a jar of urine was displayed. Libs are such hypocrites. I can't wait until all you crybabies have to get jobs in January.

    August 29, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
    • Jonathan

      Libtard – 'We're' is the contraction form of 'we are'. I sure hope I can get a job teaching basic grammar in January.

      August 31, 2012 at 9:14 am |
  4. joe d

    stupid toothles inbred rednecks defending this..the rascists will never get..and this is how these phoney christians teach their kids..disgusting...message to inbred rascist rednecks..you lost the civil war and the slave are free get over it...the south shall never ever rise again inbreds
    OBAMA 2012....

    August 29, 2012 at 11:54 am |
    • Libtards

      Who is an inbred redneck? You can't even spell racist you retard. I'm sure you are the same person who liked pictures of bush with a target behind him and you called him the devil. Turnabout is fair play. Libbys think putting a crucifix in urine is art, but don't like when art is used against them. Joe d, a certified retard.

      August 29, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
  5. T2

    I think the teacher just unintentionally taught the kids one of the most important lessons in life...Everyone is free to exercise his/her freedom of speech, but realize every action has a reaction.

    I do not disagree with the paintings (some definitely in poor taste) but I don't agree with the teacher's ok to place them is the public hallway. He must have known that politics and religion are the two most controversal topics in life. So he had to know that some of the pictures would draw controversy and decided to allow them to put in the hall anyway. I do not agree he should have been fired over this but again...his action prompted a reaction.

    August 29, 2012 at 9:33 am |
    • Doodlebug2222

      The problem I see is simple. It was forgotten that regardless – all political cartoons DO have a line that the artists cannot cross – period. Think about it – there are specific things you cannot illustrate – and place in these political cartoons. Perhap the instructor should of talked to credible political cartoonits and gained an undertanding of exactly what is off limits.

      IF he would of first had to gain approval – before posting these in the hall, were they were open to public view > he, would not be the one to of shouldered the blame. I think that for all practical purposes – items such as this should have some measure of approval process.... I think teacher are given completely too much leeway and lack of supervision.

      August 29, 2012 at 10:41 pm |
  6. choluv

    So you mean to tell me it's politically correct to advocate murder? Tell that to the recently murdered people families members. Pictures with bullet holes in the Presidents head, why not a noose? AMERICA'S. PROBLEMS are not Obama's fault it's the lying and stealing by the powers that be.

    August 29, 2012 at 8:25 am |
  7. GG

    All the rhetoric in the world doesn't justify perpetuation of violence, violent ideas, violent thinking, and why didn't they have any showing a bullet hole in a Republican's head? Why is it okay to teach disrespect and violence in the name of education? And why is anyone surprised when students in the schools turn into murderers – that's what they are learning..

    August 29, 2012 at 4:22 am |
  8. mugzee

    It"s AMAZING how subversive racism can be!!!

    August 29, 2012 at 2:30 am |
  9. RALCVG48

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    August 28, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
  10. PG

    The picture depicting the president with a bullet hole in the side of his head or the one declaring "open season" on the president drawn by seventh graders with the approval of their teacher is not about freedom of expression. Freedom of expression is not a child’s right. The teacher has a professional responsibility for the education and social development of his students, especially young students. The teacher's lack of judgment and dereliction of his responsibility for his students' actions in his classroom cannot be allowed to go unreprimanded if for no other reason than to teach his students that engaging in acts that are socially irresponsible and offensive cannot be condoned.

    August 28, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
    • David Forthoffer

      Freedom of expression IS a child's right. The rights preserved in the First Amendment are not limited to adults.
      More to the point is that hanging posters in the hallway is the TEACHER conveying a message, regardless of who created the posters. Is that part of the teacher's right in school? Arguably not.

      August 28, 2012 at 9:07 pm |
      • MC

        Students rights are limited as soon as a they pass the threshold of a school. The Bill of Rights is not limited to adults, you are correct, however; freedom of expression is limited, especially when teachers are acting in loco parentis. There is a large difference between accepted expression (Tinker v. Des Moines) and suppressed expression (Morse v. Frederick).

        August 28, 2012 at 10:55 pm |
      • Doodlebug2222

        While there are rights, there are also lines that should not be crossed and repercussions when they are. Would of you said if they had the president's children's images beside him that would of some how still been their right to express themselves? Sorry but you are incorrect. There are limits to what we can say, do and express.

        August 29, 2012 at 10:43 pm |
  11. Robby Scruggs

    Hmm if it had been anti-Romney artwork I wonder if the media would still be this up in arms about it? Probably not. Its funny of Dems claim they are tolerant of everyone, everyone that is that shares their views. If you have opposing views however, they are just as mean spirited and vicious as they claim those on my side are. Oh, and before I am called all kinds of conservative bad names, Im an openly gay southerner who supported Hilary in 08, Kerry in 04, Bush in 00 & Dole in 96. Im with Romney in 2012

    August 28, 2012 at 6:34 pm |
    • Justice Law

      :) LOL I agree!

      August 28, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
    • Melo-D

      If it had been anti-Romney artwork, Fox news wouls have done a 2 week long campaign on how Obma is trying to indoctrinate our children. You people need to wake up.

      August 28, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
      • backspace

        You are absolutely right! With Bill leading the way.

        August 29, 2012 at 5:32 am |
      • T2

        Good Point. Politics works both ways.

        August 29, 2012 at 8:09 am |
    • mugzee

      This IDIOT of a teacher should have been arrested by the Secret Service for threatening the President of the United States.......Depicting the President with a bullet hole in his head???

      August 29, 2012 at 2:40 am |
  12. Jur Z Boy

    The student has a fine career ahead as Op Ed Cartoonist for the Washington Post.

    Offensive? I'm offended they're offended. I insist this debate be taken down because I'm offended by narrow minded, bleeding heart liberals that get their knickers twisted over differing philosophies. The administrator that fired the teacher should be tared and feathered & then be put out to pasture. "No tenure for you!"

    August 28, 2012 at 6:34 pm |
  13. Anthony

    Its amazing how many people are missing the mark here. Offensive content, political or not, should have been addressed. I personally don't think he should have been fired, but when a picture depicts bodily harm when its not warranted. If the kids can't express their opinion with out violence, we all should be deeply concerned.

    August 28, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • Justice Law

      You are incorrect. "Offensive" is a subjective term. Voltaire's literary works on freedom of speech (by the way, he is THE source of the term freedom of speech) were offensive to the monarch and those who supported him. Freedom of political speech should not be sensored. To imply that the children were influenced by their parents and that is the only reason they drew these images is to say that our children are unintelligent and can not have a political view. To suggest sensorship just because something is "offensive" to someone is to silence free speech. The political cartoons of Jesus are offensive to me and the sculpture of Jesus that was placed in a museum and was made of chocolate was very offensive to me. The bottom line is that everything is offensive to someone at some point in time. Suck it up and put on your big boy pants and face the fact that the world is made up of diverse views and that is OK. Obama has already weakened the respect we have for the honorable position of President of the United States by doing such things as writing a note to a students teacher because he skipped school to come hear the president speak. What message does that send to a kid?? I am more important than your personal achievements and education... more important than your future... more important than the power of an education and its OK to break a rule because of ME?

      August 28, 2012 at 7:02 pm |
      • Mike

        How can you discuss censorship, when you cannot even spell it? Get a dictionary, read more, and then resubmit your work.

        August 28, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
  14. Harry Pelham

    Personally I thought the students cartoon was quite a FINE piece of Art Work bar none!!! What ever happened too FREE speech in this Country any how???

    August 28, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • Anthony

      Since when did anyone under age 18 have free speech? heck I still can't swear in my moms house lol

      August 28, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
  15. Justice Law

    So dictator Kim Jong Il, ahmmmm, I meant Obama's supporters are offended? Yet another attempt to silence freedom of expression and freedom of speech. So we can make a mockery of Jesus on the cross in an art gallery but we cant hang a poster of the secret socialist dictator on the wall?

    August 28, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
  16. daveyoung

    Why didn`t they show the picture with Barry`s pointed tail ?

    August 28, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  17. Don

    Enough with the stupid posts..The fact is, all of the graphic images produced by these kids is really a reflection of what grown-ups have instilled in them. 7th graders don't read the Washington Post, watch CNN or FOX so "their" political views are only what they have been told..normally by parents and other relatives. Jeez... you would think that aspect would have been one of the first posts out here...but no...we dived right into the political battle just as CNN wanted...:-(

    August 28, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
    • Justice Law

      I call BS on that.

      August 28, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
  18. Wind

    The only one that should not have been posted was the one with the bullet hole. No president should be treated that way, Republican or Democrate. Black, white or any color. But to fire this teacher is just to far.

    August 28, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
    • daveyoung

      How about Abe Lincoln with a bullet hole in the back of his head, or Ronald Reagan with multiple bullet holes in his chest ? Does that offend your sensibilities ?

      August 28, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
      • Anthony

        Key difference, each one of those presidents were shot. Violent behavior should not be publicly displayed in schools even ones hiding behind political cartoons

        August 28, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
      • Justice Law

        Uhhhh what rock have you been living under? Have you not seen the political mockeries of Jesus on the Cross or other examples of freedom of expression?

        August 28, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
  19. HZ

    liberals bashed bush throughout his terms.
    and now some teacher just display some cartoons drew by STUDENTS, both pro and anti obama, and liberals are yelling he not only should be fired but also be charged? lol

    August 28, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • Jim

      It's drawn not drew. How can anyone take your comment seriously when you're unable to construct a simple sentence.

      August 28, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
      • Don

        They will take him seriously for most would not have known that an error had been made....LOL

        August 28, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
      • HZ

        looks like you have nothing to add but correct somebody's spelling on internet...... hmm, typical liberal, when you can't win an argument, find something silly to blame, just like obama who can't run re-election campaign on his own record xD

        August 28, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
      • daveyoung

        You mean with correct punctuation too ???

        August 28, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    • Anti-Hz

      This has nothing to do with republican or democrat... just the fact that an extremely poor decision was made that makes you worried that the teacher is unfit and obviously a moron... I'd not want such a stupid teacher at my kids school. How much of a moron can you be to post a cartoon about assassinating anyone, let alone the leader of our country, Bush or anyone else.

      August 28, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
      • Cora

        Correct. I don't think the teacher should have been fired, but definitely reprimanded. We don't need our teachers to be influencing negative and harmful behavior towards others. We have enough of that already.

        August 28, 2012 at 11:00 pm |
    • Justice Law

      I agree! Freedom of speech means freedom of speech for everyone- not just liberals and not just at their convenience.

      August 28, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
  20. JM006895

    This is certainly a hot topic. I think that it was most unfortunate that the teacher put up the picture with the hole in the
    President of the United States head. The teacher should have explained to the student the ramifications of drawing something of this nature and let them know he could not display it with the rest of the pictures. Should the teacher have been fired? I really don't think so. But he definitely needs to be evaluated on his techniques for teaching young impressionable teens.

    August 28, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
  21. Mary

    I don't have a problem with political cartoons.
    I do have a problem with gunshot sounds to the temple.
    Wonder if this teacher told the kids to keep violence out of their cartoons?
    In any case, I wouldn't have hung those pics in the hallway. I wouldn't have shown them around anywhere, and I would have had the student re-do the assignment using better judgement.

    August 28, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • Don

      Which is why you are (thankfully) not a teacher in our schools. Telling the kids to re-do the assignment and use better judgement would undermine the purpose of the assignment involving personal perceptions of policatical candidates. You might as well just tell them what you want drawn. Nobody gripped when we were drawing pictures of Carter, Clinton, Bush (Sr.) and Reagan...but then again...they weren't black...guess that's the real issue here...isn't it?

      August 28, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
      • JJH

        Well, yeah, people griped. School administrations even went so far as to report students to the secret service.

        August 28, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
      • Anthony

        Wow Don,

        So many general assumptions there. Your assuming Mary isn't fit to teach kids? Who are you to judge? lets take away the politics out of this for one second, and pretend that it was a piece of art showing a bullet hole in the middle of the someone's temple. Offensive? YES!

        Worth firing a guy over it ... no. I do think more should have been done with the students and teachers to address the issue of having kids drawing offensive content.

        August 28, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
  22. justice_deprived

    As Americans we are to respect the Commander in Cheif. I never agreed with Bush's (either one) views, but i would never want to see him depicted with a bullet hole in his head. "OBAMA SEASON" implies we should hunt humans..is this what children are being taught at home?

    August 28, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
    • Don

      "Obama Season" could have many implications..like it's time to vote that nut out of office. It could be that the desired outcome from an "Obama Season" be his total loss of credibility and support...a time for conservatives to rise up and get busy "hunting" ways to bring Obama down (that meanig..out of the White House..in case your criminalized mind goes somewhere else with the phrase)..

      August 28, 2012 at 4:52 pm |
      • steven Harnack

        Wow, you're really digging you know. Like I guess that a guy yelling "I'm gonna murder you" at someone while waving a gun around could just mean that he is going to beat him at a game of HORSE too, but it's not very likely.

        August 28, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
      • Cora

        I would imagine that a child of yours given this assignment, would do exactly this.

        August 28, 2012 at 11:06 pm |
  23. Frank

    And later, everyone acts surprised when a kid actually stars shooting people.

    August 28, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
  24. Maria Rivera-Carvalho

    I have been a public school teacher for 25 years and would never defend a teacher that crosses the lines of civility, good taste and social responsiblity in such a blatant way. That man has no business teaching our young people. Education is about preparing individuals to contribute to society in a positive way. We can disagree with the president but I have never seen this kind of hatred and disrespect. President Obama does not deserve this treatment and that child does not deserve having such an irresponbble adult aroun him. This is a case in which free speech can be twisted into child abuse.

    August 28, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
    • Dude

      I have been a parent longer than you have been a teacher, and one thing I know about children is that you can't control them. You can teach them, but control is impossible. Kids will do what they do, regardless of whether you tell them not to. The teacher did nothing wrong.

      August 28, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
      • Mary

        You can't control your kids????? Really???
        If we all just threw up our hands and said "they're gonna do what they're gonna do"............well, we're in big trouble.

        August 28, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
      • evan

        @mary so you keep a leash on your kids so you have full control?

        August 28, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
      • AmericaPie

        Can't control the kids? And you've been a parent for a long time? Had much success? Ignorant!!

        August 28, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
      • Maria Rivera-Carvalho

        The teacher did everything wrong because he is an adult in a position of power. By condoning the child's transgression he gave it his seal of approval. Teachers guide and teach, not just let kids educate themselves.

        August 28, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
      • steven Harnack

        So you're saying that he had no choice? That he had to put the pictures up for display because he couldn't even control his own actions? Is that some new excuse for misconduct? The children made me do it?

        August 28, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
    • knucklecheese

      Oh shut up. You and I both know your hypocritical progressive mouth would be praising the teacher had the cartoons been aimed at Romney (or better yet, Bush). You're not fooling anyone with your tired old lies and empty rhetoric.

      August 28, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • Dave

      And if the picture had been of Romney or Bush Dude and Knucklecheese would be calling for his head. It doesn't matter what your political leanings, this was highly inappropriate in a school setting.

      August 28, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
    • 4u2nv

      This article would not be here if a picture of Bush was drawn like this. Why is it that everytime something negative is said about Obama it has to be racial. If you voted for Obama because he is half black you are just as much a racist as someone who voted against him for the same reason.

      August 28, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
      • Dave

        It has nothing to do with race. A picture of the president with a bullet wound in the head is highly inappropriate and should not be displayed in any school.

        August 28, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
    • Michael Slaysman

      The public education system in america is a joke. It does not foster creativity or the critical thinking skills that are necessary to succeed in higher education. As you have been a teacher for 25 years I am sure that you have noticed that your profession is to make sure your students can pass the archaic standardized test that are given so your school can receive federal and state funds. While I am not privy to the inner workings of the Department of Education it seems to me that instead of telling every student that they are a genius the teacher should encourage excellence. As for this art show I personally think it was a bold move by the teacher. The POTUS is not immune to public ridicule, nor is any public figure. As for the offending piece of contemporary american art has anyone stopped to think it is just a hole in the head, as in the POTUS has no brains whatsoever? That is what is known as a visual expressive metaphor.

      August 30, 2012 at 11:13 am |
  25. Jeff

    Freedom of expression....case in point. The teacher nor student should be held up on anything.

    August 28, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
    • NEC

      They why do they stop students from bringing guns and knives to school. That's just freedom of expression and they're expressing their 2nd amendment rights?

      August 28, 2012 at 4:17 pm |
  26. Ted

    The real crime here, is that the teacher didn't take his beef up with the rest of the faculty for preaching their liberal agenda on the students. After all of the ridicule and inflammatory remarks toward him in the dialog with those teachers. He could have then demonstrated the double standards, by posting his poster.

    August 28, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
    • Durundal

      The liberal agenda? You are one warped mofo. Hey look on the ceiling, the word gullible is up there!

      August 28, 2012 at 4:20 pm |
    • steven Harnack

      And the "liberal agenda" is what? Anything that isn't in the Bible? Right-wingers are all the time referring to "the liberal agenda" but I've never seen it defined. How can we avoid that evil liberal agenda if no one will tell us what it is?

      August 28, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
      • mlg4035

        Thanks for pointing that out, Steven!
        I guess I'm a "liberal" but the only "agenda" I have is the fair and reasoned governance of the country I love!
        Love of country? Call me guilty as charged...

        August 29, 2012 at 12:13 am |
  27. Jonathan

    In my lifetime, I have seen two American Presidents shot, one of which died. Another American President survived two attempts on his life and another avoided a grenade attack. I do not find these cartoons funny. This teacher should not only be fired, but should have a grand jury investigation on possible criminal charges. Anyone who openly advocates the assassination of an American President should always be taken seriously.

    August 28, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • oppi3223

      How do you know this teacher advocated any assassination of anyone. He displayed the pictures the children drew. Just stick with the facts and maybe you'll come to the conclusion he prevented an assassination.

      August 28, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
  28. dahditdah

    We had the same thing happen in our school. The School Board was so afraid of hiring an Art teacher that would infect us with 'liberal' ideas they ended up hiring a neo-nazi to teach hs art. After a semester of half-hour lectures on the supremacy of strong centralized authoritarian governments and raging on the minorities in the class they fired her and the principle she was banging.

    August 28, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
  29. Taskmaster

    If it were black kids drawing derogatory cartoons of a whie president the black community would be supporting them. But woe to anyone making fun of ole elephant ears obammy.

    August 28, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
    • Maria Rivera-Carvalho

      You obviously don't know the black community and have no basis to say such thing. There are extremists in both sides. Most black parents, just like any other ethnic group, teach their children basic ethic principles. Some learn them, some don't.

      August 28, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
    • justice_deprived

      you're an idiot!!!!

      August 28, 2012 at 4:20 pm |
    • Durundal

      actually smart one, If it were black folk they would strongly condemn it lest they be judged guilty by association. Its funny how uneducated little people such as yourself try to incorrectly assume the race card.

      August 28, 2012 at 4:24 pm |
    • AmericaPie

      I think the grugs did you no good Mr. Try education, might help. might not.

      August 28, 2012 at 4:49 pm |
    • Cora

      You are so wrong!

      August 28, 2012 at 11:09 pm |
  30. Big Papa

    It is not ok to draw someone with a bullet wound to their head. The teacher was teaching "Violence and Hate"

    August 28, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
    • Taskmaster

      The teacher didn/t teach. He let the kids draw what they wanted to draw. But we can only censor and critisize the art work of white kids. RIGHT?

      August 28, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
      • Maria Rivera-Carvalho

        No, but we can guide them. Was that was a public school paid by taxpayers money or an art gallery? Hence the big diffence.

        August 28, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
    • Dude

      I guess all of those movies that make millions of dollars are not OK either...

      August 28, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
  31. mark

    Don't know what the big deal is. No on takes kids seriously these days.

    August 28, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • AmericaPie

      I guess they did at Columbine.

      August 28, 2012 at 4:50 pm |
  32. kb

    Posting political cartoons is fine. The main problem here is the posting of cartoons of Mr. Obama with a target on him or a bullet hole in his head. That goes way beyond what is acceptable no matter who the subject is. It would be so nice if we could teach our children how to discuss differing points of view without stooping to name calling and death threats.

    August 28, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
  33. Vad

    I have no real love for Obama but he is our President and should not be depicted with bullet holes in his head or any violence against him. I am conservative in nature but harbor no real hate for the left just because I don't agree with them. I would hope both sides would teach children about civility in political discussion but that seems in short supply these days. I don't believe it has to do with racism either because Bush had a lot of hate come his way too. I pose the question: does social media make us less civil in some way?

    August 28, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
  34. trisha

    wow, lots of replies on this topic. honestly the pictures were drawn by children, and if the teacher is not the one pushing his beliefs onto the children it leaves you to wonder who is... anyone ever think hmm idk maybe the parents are the ones who put these ideas into their childs head??? i hear alot of people mainly parents speakin of Obama, some possitive some negative. but the children live with their parent anyone ever think maybe it was the ones they live with that spawned these drawings? it is possible the teacher did... it is possible he didnt.

    August 28, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
  35. UhYeaOk

    Please, had these "cartoons" depicted Bush in a bad way there would be no controversy. Anything negative about Obama is considered racist and must be censored. They hypocrisy in this country is nauseating.

    August 28, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
    • Really

      Baloney. A student in Prosser, Washington drew a couple of very simiilar posters in 2005 that were anti-war and anti Bush, and the school district called the secret service.

      August 28, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
      • Charlie

        Did they fire the teacher?

        August 28, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
      • JJH

        No, they did not fire the teacher since the teacher was the one who turned in the student for his anti-Bush poster,.

        August 28, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
  36. badcyclist

    There is a big difference between students being creative and drawing what they think, and a situation where a bad teacher manipulates students into being proxies for whatever neuroses the teacher happens to have. It is not at all clear to me what the situation was here.

    August 28, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • CapeApe

      I think it's absurd to expect 7th graders to have any kind of intelligent, informed opinion of any sitting President, regardless of party; at best, they'll repeat what they've heard at home or while watching TV. The assignment itself is not offensive, nor insulting, nor a fireable offense by the teacher. It is, however (and in my opinion) a waste of time when given to 12 and 13 year olds; it's more appropriate for high school seniors or college-level students. This is a silly argument to have. The teacher keeps his job, and maybe gets told that he should find a more age-appropriate assignment to teach these about our political process/climate. Everything else that's being brought up is bunk (whether political, racial, or just plain spelling/grammar errors.) Stop being so oversensitive, people...

      August 28, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
      • Michael Slaysman

        And you would be correct to believe that. Students in middle school are not taught political science. They are taught propaganda. They are not taught that Congress as a whole (that means the House and the Senate) are the people responsible for the laws we live under. They are not taught that the President is NOT the most powerful person in the government. Yes the President has vast influence, over his own party, but in the end the president can only sign or veto a bill and propose and implement policy. The President is the fall guy of the United States, when the economy booms the President is great when it falls the President is a failure. The most disgusting part of how students are taught about our government is that they actually think later in life their vote actually counts in a presidential election.

        August 30, 2012 at 11:27 am |
  37. Jerry

    Let the students express their creativity as they wish. The truth IS... (other than the Hollywood buffoons and lame stream media reporters and anchors) NOT everyone gushes over Mr. Obama.

    I REALLY wonder how CNN and others would be reacting if the drawings happened to be of presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

    The teacher should have never been fired. The school just happens to be pandering and buckling under to the Mr. Obama administration. If memory does not fail me, Mr Obama himself has encouraged teachers and students to be as creative as possible. (I guess he meant only when HE is not the object.)

    I am hopping the affected teacher not only takes legal action; but wins the case.

    Well, duh...

    August 28, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • Richard

      Apparently, you need to go back to school and learn how to spell.....

      August 28, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • Justin

      Jerry –
      posting political cartoons in a school is inappropriate regardless of who they are of. i wouldn't be supportive if they were or Obama, Romney or Bush. Quit your complaining about "lame stream media." the majority of media in this country (tv & radio) are in the bag for the GOP. please stop acting like you are so persecuted.

      August 28, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • Eric H

      Unbelievable how stupid people are. Children are in school to learn not draw degrading pics of the president no matter who he is. People like you and that teacher are examples of why America is lacking in education. Romney or Obama, that's not right. A republican teacher pushing her political views on the children my tax dollars pays for is ridiculous. I'm glad I'm not helping pay that teacher. Maybe someone better suited will fill her position. Open your eyes I'm baffled you said what you did. Dummy...

      August 28, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • Lawrence

      Threatening the President is a federal offense. He teaching the children that it's okay to hate.

      August 28, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • Durundal

      So if liberalism is officially the mainstream mentality, based off of your lazy pejorative of "lamestream", I suppose that makes you, by definition, a fringe lunatic. Enjoy that one, cant say im shocked when you are ranting on a forum and implicitly insult yourself

      August 28, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
  38. sonamendes

    When I was in school I was taught that "Your rights/freedoms end where your peers' begins" (translation). Basically we all have freedom of speech, but my freedom of speech cannot for example interfere with someone else's right to privacy. It's not really a legal construct, but more so a moral one. Yes, you have your freedom of speech but you do not have the right to try to racially or politically shape my child's mind. Plain and simple

    August 28, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • Charlie

      The teacher wasn't trying to politically shape the student's minds; he gave them an assignment and some of them drew cartoons that wer pro-Obama, some anti-Obama. Plain and simple.

      August 28, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
  39. JJH

    Well, the Supreme Court has said that freedom of speech has limits in the school environment. Schools do have the right to suspend students for refusing to remove a shirt with offensive/disruptive words or images, for instance. And schools do have the right to sanction teachers for the same reason.

    The Supreme Court has said schools can even fire teachers for comments they post on Facebook as well as expel students from school for participating in a protest on their own time away from school. So the 2nd amendment does have its limits.

    August 28, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • MA Gillicutty

      Amendment 1 = Freedom of Speech
      Amendment 2 = Right to Bear Arms

      This is not a 2nd Amendment topic. It is a 1st Amendment topic.

      August 28, 2012 at 3:04 pm |
      • JJH

        Sorry, came from another thread about another discussion. Got them mixed up.

        August 28, 2012 at 3:04 pm |
  40. Freedom Fascist

    A hilarious article considering this government loves to blame other countries for not allowing freedom of political expression. So wait, maybe our government is not that different from Syria or Iraq or Libya or Afghanistan afterall....don't believe anything your government tells you.

    August 28, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
  41. MA Gillicutty

    Bullet in the Head = Assassination... President John F. Kennedy. Enough said. The correct decision was terminating the teacher.

    August 28, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
  42. shaistytime

    I can't make a judgment on this without knowing the details of the assignment, and how it was presented.
    Thus, "Make a political cartoon to express your opinions about the candidates for the upcoming presidential election." as an assignment is perfectly fine, and the firing should be overturned.
    "Make a political cartoon about that evil foreign-born usurper who is about to be rightly kicked out of office." is completely different and the firing makes sense.

    Given the current climate in schools regarding gun violence, posting the bullet-hole image and not anticipating some reaction was rather foolish. Is it possible that the teacher was deliberately trying to provoke a reaction?

    August 28, 2012 at 2:53 pm |
  43. T Hod

    Would the cartoons have been accepted by the NY Times?

    August 28, 2012 at 2:52 pm |
    • whatguy

      Not likely, they seem to be critical of Obama, and being critical of Obama is blasphemous at that liberal bastion. Kind of like it wouldn't go over well if they were about Romney at Fox news.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
    • VILTOR

      Of course the Times would not publish this stuff. Not because they are liberal but because they are offensive. By the way, the Times is very critical of Obama. Just because they will take his side over certain issues is not a cause for claiming bias especially when they go out of their way to make their case with facts.

      August 28, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
  44. Larry

    Politics should be taught in school because it is something that not many people understand. To vote for someone is usually based on personal beliefs or factors that lead them to vote for one candidate or another. If politics is taught in school, no teacher should push there own beliefs onto a student. The subject should be unbiased and left up to the students own beliefs of who they feel could be the best candidate. Many students are from families that are either republican or democrat. What should be taught is how to weigh the difference of the two candidates on the many subjects the candidates represent. There are many. This way students understand whats in the news and can come tho there own conclusions.
    As for that teacher (or any teacher) pushing there own political beliefs onto students is wrong and he should be punished harshly. Especially if it shows racism or death.

    August 28, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
    • Charlie

      There were both pro and anti Obama cartoons and they were drawn by the students not the teacher, so the teacher wasn't "pushing" his own political beliefs.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
      • ckerst

        The teacher wasn't smart enough to explain to the students that free speech has limits. A picture depicting the president with a bullet wound is offensive as would a picture depicting the president portrayed as Jesus. Firing him is in my opinion going to far though. A reprimand would have been plenty.

        August 28, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
    • hooah

      I got a better idea. How about they learn how to read, write and do math first? Soooo many can't put their heads around that, how the hell are they going to understand politics. Sht, I'm 46, relatively smart and I don't get it.....nor do I want to anymore.

      August 28, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
      • Siggie

        @hooah – I very much hope you don't vote seeing that you don't inform yourself :-(

        August 28, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
  45. Rod Koehler

    This teacher used poor judgment, first in allowing bullet hole/open season pictures to be drawn in his classroom, and to then hang them up. Perhaps the assignment should have started closer to home as in, "Create a political cartoon about a decision the principal or a teacher made". Can you imagine the teacher hanging in the hallway a picture of his principal with a bullet hole in his head.

    August 28, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
  46. King

    You guys make me laugh. You all Freedom of speech and all types of constutional rights regarding this, but if someone....say....prayed in the school or put up something about god, you would all be ready to hang them up at the nearest tree. This country is filled with hypocrites....because that is a freedom too.

    August 28, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
    • John-117

      King, you are obviously a liberal nut job.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
      • King

        NO.....I'm an African-american/Hispanic Rebublican of Irish descent who is on welfare. Now I dare you to try and stereotype THAT you non-linear-thinking nimrod.

        August 28, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
      • John-117

        You are not a republican. You are simply a simple minded left-wing extremist.

        August 28, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
    • karek40

      Mr. or Mrs. King, you definately see the big picture, most commenting do not.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
      • John-117

        Commenting on your own comment, under a different name?

        August 28, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
      • King

        ...AND you're paranoid and delusional. I guess it boggles the mind that someone agrees with my statement.

        August 28, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
  47. Mel

    Seriously, some of you need to repeat the seventh grade. You can't spell worth a lick. The teacher deserved what he got, which was a swift kick to the curb. His actions may not have been racist but they were very disrespectful. He should have done a cartoon print of his mother.

    August 28, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
    • John-117

      We should be able to express our political opinions and criticisms without losing our jobs. The 2nd amendment should protect us from these kinds of things.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
      • Era

        Actually, teachers are for the most part not allowed to impart their personal biases in the classroom. Unrelated to the matter at hand, but expressing your political opinions is one thing in the office and another in the classroom, where children's parents may have a different idea about your freedom of speech. Just thought someone ought to correct you on that one.

        August 28, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
      • Mel

        John, you sound a bit angry in some of your comments. Don't pop a blood vessel. I see absolutely nothing wrong with voicing your opinion but have some tact when discussing others, especially the leader of our country.

        August 28, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
      • Bob

        Teachers do NOT have the right to impose their political opinions on students of that age (college students taking political science may be another matter). The Second Amendment has nothing ot do with it, unless you are trying to argue that teachers should have the right to be armed in the classroom. If you are trying to refer to freedom of speech, try the First Amendment.

        August 28, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
      • MA Gillicutty

        @John-117
        2nd Amendment – Right to Bear Arms
        1st Amendment – Freedom of Speech

        The 2nd Amendment should protect a person from being fired? Are you totally insane? Sheesh.

        August 28, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
    • Nah

      mel: "His actions may not have been racist but they were very disrespectful."

      Being disrespectful typically isn't sufficient grounds for terminating someone from their state job.

      Beyond that, if this were a picture of Bush, you'd be jumping up and down screaming about free speech. And rightly so.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
      • Mel

        You are precisely WRONG John. Try again.

        August 28, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • Jerry

      Mel, and your comments ARE respectful?! Oh well...

      August 28, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • Kidding Me

      The teacher didn't draw the cartoons the students did so how was he being disrespectful? And why can't we be disrespectful to an elected official who is simply not doing a good job? If the president gets fired from his job in November are the ones who did not vote for him being disrespectful? We are the most hypocritical and overly political correct nation in the world. We are becoming dinosaurs and we should all probably start learning Chinese.

      August 28, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
  48. John-117

    I don't get it. Don't all political caricature look like that. People getting punished for this is a clear sign that liberals are against free speech and will stop at nothing to silence you.

    August 28, 2012 at 2:30 pm |
    • Roger

      No John my logistiaclly challenged friend. We don't want some teabagger indoctrinating our kids with his view. Has nothing to do with free speech. Then again it is always the people that trott out the 1st that understand it the least

      August 28, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
      • John-117

        You can't even spell logistically correctly. This has EVERYTHING to do with free speech. I am so sick of hearing about people losing their jobs because they don't support Obama. Liberals don't respect people's political views or opinions. What I don't want is liberals indoctrinating our children into thinking freedom of speech only applies for somethings.

        August 28, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
      • Gary

        @John, seriously you going to call him out for transcribing two letters incorrectly?

        That is being petty, much like the republican party. At best he is guilty of not proof reading, but swap the 2 letters, and logistically is spelled correctly. he has all the right letters, two were misplaced. Being petty much?

        August 28, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
      • Bob

        Encouraging 7th grade students to create pro- or anti-Obama cartoons (or pro- or anti-Romney cartoons) is plain stupid. They are likely going to be woefully ignorant of the fact that lead to legitimate political commentary and will resort to, well, 7th grade level taunting or praising. Look how middle schoolers often treat their peers. But naturally, this is liberal bias against free speech, right John? But your assertion that Saddam Hussien had WMDs in another of your posts shows how much you pay attention to the world anyway.

        August 28, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
      • dan

        Likewise we do not want some gay/lesbian telling our kids that that is a natural way to be.

        August 28, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
  49. David

    So the guy says, "if the media didn't broadcast it"' exactly .... This stupidity would still being taught to SEVENTH grade children...fire the Moran and all the teachers who defend that position...it's bad in so many ways

    August 28, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
    • 1st amendment

      I love the fire the Moran comment.....if you call someone a name for being stupid make sure you spell Moron correctly, otherwise you are the moran....

      August 28, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
    • John-117

      Hahaha can't even spell moron right.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:41 pm |
      • Me

        He was fired due to breaking the school's rules and polices which has nothing to do with freedom of speech. The school has their own polices to which the teachers have to agree to before they work. For example you may be fired if you show up to your job with a shirt that has a picture of marijuana on it. Now you are not breaking and law you are breaking your company's policy.

        August 28, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
  50. Charlie

    Political cartoons are supposed to be controversial. The parents who complained are not being parents they're being politically motivated whiners.

    August 28, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
    • jaci

      agree

      August 28, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
    • Roger

      Exempt we don't want 7th graders politically idoctrinated by a teabagger. Good they fired him and hopefully he never gets to stand in a classroom again

      August 28, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
      • spojangles

        Correct. The only indoctrination that is allowed in schools and Universities is Liberal indoctrination. If you are Liberal, the fact that you are correct and know what's best for all supercedes any law, if you are conservative, you are wrong and therefore have no rights!!

        August 28, 2012 at 2:45 pm |
    • Charlie

      Roger,
      There were both pro and anti Obama cartoons. There was no indoctrination, just both sides voicing their opinion. If you can't handle a challenge to your opinion, then stay home.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
  51. Newsy Lady

    Political cartoonists are paid to take liberties with our political and public figures every day. It's part of the freedoms we enjoy in this country. What is the difference here? A teacher got fired over this?! Those who are offended have clearly never seen editorial cartoons.
    This overreaction is further proof that we are living in a thin-skinned society, more concerned with political correctness than political freedom. PC=BS

    August 28, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
    • Boo

      I don't ever recall see a president protrayed with a bullet in his head....GET REAL!

      August 28, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
      • Nah

        boo: "I don't ever recall see a president protrayed with a bullet in his head....GET REAL!"

        You must not open your eyes very often.

        Bush was depicted with a noose around his neck, being executed, and, in fact, in a "what if" docu-mentary wondering what would happen if he were as-sas-inated.

        August 28, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
  52. Mel

    A bullet hole to the head is gross. But I fail to see how it's racist. Stop looking at color, look at we are all human with equal rights and responsibility. If the assignment was about the president than that is whay they did. How come they didn't show a stream of all the cartoons, by each student? Where were the parents didn't they see the childs homework before turning it in? America where the blame is on every person it shouldn't be. Parents should take a look at homework before being turned in. I'd like to know what the parents of these kids think of the art work!! I get 7th grade you may not see every assignment, but teaching right from wrong begins in the house at birth! Maybe he shouldn't of hung the pictures up, bad judgement but getting fired. Grow up people! America = Freedom of speech, freedom to make a bad choice, get written up, suspeneded for a week or two...........Move on! He should have his job!

    August 28, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
  53. Mexi

    The PC world is getting worse every day.

    August 28, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
  54. ThinkWouldYa

    Hey Justme69, the fact that you spelled our former president's name George "Busch" (like the beer) tells me all I need to know about you. You might win the 'dumb post of the day' award for your thoughts. Congrats!

    August 28, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
  55. spynnal

    Even if you dislike a president, you should respect the office/position, and disapprove of veiled threats. If you do not, and accept it as a form of criticism, then once there is a president you respect in office, they too will be forced to deal with blatant disrespect and veiled threats.

    The short-sightedness of people in this nation is frightening. Weakening the power of the office harms every American.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:58 pm |
  56. Sal

    This article alone just goes to show how divided the country is! 

    August 28, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
  57. Will

    Why haven't we kicked the south out yet?

    August 28, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
    • Boo

      I wish they'd just secede...who needs them?

      August 28, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
    • Marcus

      The south? You do know that publications such as The New Yorker, Wall Street Journal and Washington Post have the same sort of political cartoons in them as this. You need to look at other news outlets IN ADDITION to CNN to really know what is going on in the country.

      CNN is obviously slanted to the Left, Fox to the Right. You can't get a true opinion by only looking at one over the other.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
    • John-117

      If only the North and West would be wiped out by nuclear weapons...sigh.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
  58. Dave

    He shouldn't have been fired, unless there were other issues involved, but he should have been harshly disciplined. I have been teaching for 20 years and there is no way I would hang anything that was racist or had such violent connotations. He showed a remarkable lack of judgement.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • Jacksjus

      So you are giving him the benefit of the doubt for not knowing any better? Really?

      August 28, 2012 at 1:58 pm |
      • Dave

        What benefit of the doubt are you talking about? I said he showed a remarkable lack of judgement, but I don't think this incident alone merits his being fired.

        August 28, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
  59. Marycatherine Kaye

    First off – why did the President of the United States – and he is the President of the United States had to be a topic of Cartoon drawing in the class room. Is he the only topic that this arragont "teacher" could think off to have his student work with. He is of course teaching the future of this country and obviously the message here is not a positive one. How is the President with what appears to be a bullet in his forehead a positive message or a lesson to be taught in our school system. And we wonder why there are so many violents in the schools and homes today.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • Mel

      It is election year, so presidents are probably going to be a big topic. Just my opinion.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
  60. buzz1975

    A bullet hole depicted on the president's head, and declaring open season on the president, is beyond the pale. What the heck was the teacher's intent in giving such an assignment to seventh graders, and then letting such violent images go on display to the entire school unchecked? The teacher is either an idiot or wanted to make a political pioint and got called on it. Where was the principal and othe administrators? Sorry, I don't think it is "political correctness" to the extreme when this teacher and school is called on encouraging and displaying a cartoon with a bullet hole drawn on the president's head. It is common sense.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
  61. AndriconBoy

    I'm still trying to figure out how painting a bullet hole on the president's face qualifies as a "political cartoon."
    Shouldn't a political cartoon be making a satyrical or biting statement about the president's policies, performance, and actions?
    Sounds to me like several students failed the assignment miserably.

    Still, I'm getting awfully sick of this whole PC-to-a-fault tolerance BS.
    Even when the president makes a mistake or does a bad job - and lets face it, he has. He's not perfect no matter how much you enjoyed voting for him - you can't say anything against him because it will cheese off liberals who keep whining about tolerance and political correctness.
    You can't point out the absurdity and hypocrisy of Xtianity as a crock of bull because you'll get fundie Dbags screaming about how you're not showing them "respect" and they equate criticism of their beliefs with "YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY MY RELIGIOUS FREEDOM!"

    I think the vast majority of Americans need to shut their noise holes and learn how to deal with criticism. And if you can't do that, then maybe you all should start showing each other a little more respect and tolerance before you demand it.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
  62. Sal

    Some of these posters supporting the teacher should have their heads examined! You are probably all right wing extremists idiots anyway. 

    August 28, 2012 at 1:52 pm |
  63. Potrzebie

    This has nothing to do with left or right. You advocate violence against the President, you get investigated by the secret service and possibly go to jail. But while we're on left vs. right, let's not forget that the Bushies threw Cindy Sheehan out of Bush's state of the union address for wearing a t-shirt and had three old ladies arrested in Colorado for standing on a sidewalk across the street from a Bush rally. The threat? They arrived in a car with a left-leaning bumper sticker on it.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
    • Ryan in Texas

      Those were instances of tresspassing.
      The kids simply drew pictures of a threat to the Country we love. Even the kids know that enemies can be foreign or domestic. And in Obama's case both.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
      • wilt wiltfong

        perceived threat to the country my left earlobe- he's the President. Deal with it. bullet holes in pictures of the president are and remain idiotic at best.

        August 28, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
      • MA Gillicutty

        @Ryan in Texas wrote:
        "The kids simply drew pictures of a threat to the Country we love. Even the kids know that enemies can be foreign or domestic. And in Obama's case both."

        The above post brought to you by the same ilk who want PRAYER (Christian only) put back into the public school classrooms; want the return of CORPORAL PUNISHMENT brought back into the classrooms; and who shove their NRA cards into your face at the slightest mention of the HOLY 2ND AMENDMENT. (A cartoon of a bullet hole in the President's head? That is violence...I hope the child gets some serious counselling.)

        We have enough problems in this country without an ignorant teacher pushing an agenda of hatred via "cartoons" of the United States President. The teacher absolutely should have been fired for this. It has nothing to do with critical thinking skills nor any type of learning that I'm aware of. It was a blatant act of aggression and a very poor example for children.

        For EIGHT YEARS KARL ROVE sliced and diced every segment of *OUR* country. After watching that "mastermind" destroy the basis of our unity in the USA, I changed my lifelong registration from "Republican" to "Independent". But the damage has been done and I'm not certain the USA will ever recover from the reign of terror at the hands of Karl
        Rove.

        Teaching our populace that "HE WHO SHOUTS THE LOUDEST WINS" is not going to get the USA back on track to civil discourse. It has infiltrated my own family. After asking a beloved nephew to "tone it down a bit", he shot back with a vitriolic diatribe espousing his Army service as his ticket to scream profanities at me and anyone else with whom he disagrees. (His father is a Vietnam Veteran – drafted – with whom I can have civil discussions with irrespective of our political differences).

        I'm very saddened that KARL ROVE is responsible for our country devolving into a primitive arena where we cannot even speak to each other. The damage is done. The HATRED FACTOR is sickening. I grieve for our country.

        August 28, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
      • Nah

        ma: "The above post brought to you by the same ilk who want PRAYER (Christian only) put back into the public school classrooms; want the return of CORPORAL PUNISHMENT brought back into the classrooms; and who shove their NRA cards into your face at the slightest mention of the HOLY 2ND AMENDMENT"

        Your simple minded partisanship is astonishing, really.

        Do you always argue with fallacies?

        "KARL ROVE"

        That you don't understand history isn't surprising.

        August 28, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • mojoquasi

      Potrzebie. Ya know, I never thought I'd ever see that word again. When I was told it was already in use when I registered I didn't believe them because I didn't think there was anyone out there as old as I am.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
  64. bethie76

    I don't think the teacher should have lost his job for displaying the assignment that the school board approves. But I also don't think children should be drawing pictures of the POTUS with a bullet hole in his head. I wouldn't have hung that one up. There aren't a lot of details about the assignment in this video but I feel like the children should be spoken to and the teacher given some stricter guidelines about what should be displayed for all to see.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
  65. Donna

    A bullet hole to the head...what teacher would encourage such depictions, cartoon or otherwise…poor judgement perhaps but I don’t think this teacher cared enough about their students to explain the difference between a political cartoon and a violent image portraying their president… seriously…fire the teacher…the teacher concern does not lie with their students but with putting the teacher’s opinion out there…

    August 28, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
  66. Ben

    In Wisconsin, for a full year, we say dozens of signs at the capitol with pictures of our govenor as hitler, as a Klansman and in a crosshiars. Nothing on CNN. Not ever. this is why the people on the right are sick of the easy offense and faux outrage.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
    • Dave

      Were those pictures drawn by 7thh graders and displayed in a school? What adults do is their business, what the kids did in his classroom is an entirely different story.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
      • RedRobin

        THANK YOU!!!!

        August 28, 2012 at 2:52 pm |
  67. TiredODaCrap

    Love the comments! I guess it's OK to oppress the voice that is anit-Obama, huh? Once again, it's OK to have an opinion and voice it, as long as it steps in line with the extreme Liberal Left. No, what was posted was not in good taste, but I have seen much much worse.
    Being an "OLD GUY", I have been around long enough to remember a time when presidents were respectedc by everyone because they are the president – and for that reason alone. Didn't matter who they were, what party they were from, how their wife/kids acted, etc. About the time the first Bush took office, the extreme Liberal Left went the opposite direction and were totally outspoken against Bush because he was a Republican. Didn't matter what he did or said, he was openly mocked for it, with it being brushed off as sarcasm or free speech.
    For those same people to demand the respect they have refused to give the other side is beyond hilarious! Funny thing is, when it's anti-Romney, etc, it's front page news now. When it's anti-Obama, it's just racist or wrong. What a joke!

    August 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
    • mojoquasi

      There are over 4,000 young soldiers lying dead and another 20,000 without arms or legs or sight, all because your idol George W. Bush lied us into the Iraq war. You're not only old, you're brain dead.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
      • Amerimuslum

        You just provided his point with the name calling. All extremests on both sides need to go to civis class.

        August 28, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
      • John-117

        Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. Of course he hide them before the weapons inspectors came. He had all the tools and items related to those weapons. Its like the police searching your house for drugs, but only finding UV lamps and bongs.

        August 28, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
  68. malcolmtbm

    he was teaching, promoting racism...for example, what was his criteria for the drawings to display in the hall...? ah ha

    August 28, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
  69. VtMe

    Here is a common sense test about the response to this particular situation:

    What do you suppose would have been the school administration's response if instead of of the POTUS the cartoons depicted a teacher at the school or the school principal (or even a fellow student for that matter) with a gun shot wound to their head, and it was posted in the hall.

    If anyone thinks for a moment that the student "artist" would not have been suspended or the teacher who posted the "art work" would not have been fired, you are kidding your selves.

    Today, schools generally have a zero tolerance policy toward depicting or advocating violence towards identifiable others.

    Now in the case of the POTUS the school is lucky not to have been visited by the Secret Service.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
    • Jack

      Exactly right!

      August 28, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
    • Jacksjus

      The saddest thing is is that these were 12 year olds that know nothing about race or politics. The hate must have been instiiled in them by their parents.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
    • RedRobin

      EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      August 28, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
  70. John McNay

    This is a case of fascism and racism gone wild. There are some real sickos at this school.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
    • John-117

      How is it racist?

      August 28, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
  71. barbara

    No, I don't think the teacher should have been fired. however, I do think some additional guidelines for what can and can't be depicted are in order. No picture should include the picture of someone with a bullet hole or similiar violence being done to them.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • Jacksjus

      C'mon this man is an educator. He knew what he was doing. Of course he should have been fired because he is supposed to lead by example. No matter where you work if you insult someone you are in trouble. If you are supposed to be a leader you'll likely get fired as opposed to being written up. This techer is an idiot.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
  72. BeBe

    Ummmm America is racist what planet is everyone living on>!?!?! I definitely agree Obama is not perfect (ummm what politician is). But the blatant and flagrant disrespect shown to him is outrageous. I believe racism does play a part in how the president is treat. Wont say all of it, but a sizeable part. Its interesting how many people want to say blacks play the race card (I am black) I think it goes both ways.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
    • Ryan in Texas

      Uh, I remember all the respect they gave Bush. Comedians don't even do Obama jokes. Our first Affirmative Action President has gotten a pass on criticism.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
    • SuperDave

      Meanwhile, all of you who paraded out there to vote for him just because of skin color are not racists? You are.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
  73. matthew

    Liberals are so conscious about their much beloved Obama that you cannot joke about him, parodize him, etc. Liberals regard him as their God. These Liberal idiots have the brain as big as a pea - just have a look at Chris Matthews which exemplifies every dim wit liberal!

    August 28, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
    • TiredODaCrap

      You may be on to something. Muslims threaten to destroy countries, etc, if Allah is blasphemed. I guess that tells us a lot about the Obama jihadist out there!

      August 28, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
    • Dr. Death

      Shut up you fool. Quit spouting your idiot talk.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
    • heh

      Liberals dont believe in gods.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
    • Andy

      Matthew hit the nail on the head here. In liberals minds Obama can do no wrong. Anybody that speaks out against him or criticizes him is automatically labeled an uneducated racist republican. It's not racist to disagree with the president, it is our fundamental right as Americans.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
      • Norman

        andy, youre an idiot-you cannot make a picture of the president with a bullet in his head-imbecile

        August 28, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
      • whit11

        if you say anything about obama, you will be called ever name in the book,this is how the dems. are. they always bring race in the talk, a black person can call you what ever they want and its ok, but a white person can't say nothing about a black if they do race comes up.this is all the dems. do

        August 28, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
      • Andy

        Norman,

        Watch the video, they just did...

        August 28, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • Boo

      Yeah? And if it was Bush portrayed with a bullet in his head, you and your conservative moron friends would all have your knickers in a twist....

      August 28, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
      • Andy

        The point was you cant say ANYTHING bad about Obama without being labled an idoit or a racist. The media and liberals clearly didn't think it was disrespectful or offensive to make fun of or criticize Bush but its blasphemy if someone does that to Obama.

        Do I agree with the pictures of Obama with a bullet through his head? Of course not, thats way over the top, but someone shouldnt be labled racist for having differing politcal and social beliefs.

        August 28, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
  74. Aaron

    If this was about Bush, Romney, or any other member of the GOP, this wouldnt even be a negative story, rather one that would be regarded as amusing and commended by the left.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
    • Kris Jackson

      False. We on the left never called for Bush's death. A few might have, but it was not a general opinion. Rather, we wanted him to be defeated electorally, or else pilloried by history. We failed in the first, but certainly succeeded at the second.
      Maybe you disagree with Obama. Go ahead. Even lie about him if you must; your party says that's okay. But don't attempt to kill him, and don't advise others to do so.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:29 pm |
      • franklovesfl

        Uhh, yes you have!

        August 28, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
      • TiredODaCrap

        Cute. It was during the Bush years that the rhetoric got to this stage of pure hatred for the "other side"!! Although, I guess by your statements it was the Republicans that spewed nothing but hate about them for all those years!!

        August 28, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
      • Aaron

        At no time in my comment did I applaud this cartoon or its message..what my comment was intended to say is that it becomes blaspemy if anyone writes, draws, or speaks ill of a Democratic President or members of the Democratic party. To further illustrate how correct I am on this point, one should look at the jaw-dropping rhetoric that was used during the Bush years...much of it coming from the mouths of Democratic Senators and Representatives (Bush being referred to as Adolf Hitler is one that stands out) This cartoons message can be looked at with varing perspective, yet the bigger picture is how bias media and personal perception has become.

        August 28, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • LouieLoueye

      I disagree. Regardless of your party affiliation, the office of the President should always be respected–the President even more so. The images with a bullet in the head of the President is going to far. I detest President Bush's run of the country but I respect the man and his decisions even though i didn't agree with them.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • Pliny

      Oh please. You conservative/republikan/christian/fundamentalists have done everything except have a KKK rally to call for Obama's ouster.

      It's been the biggest outpouring of race-hate in decades.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
    • SuperDave

      True. And burried on page 20 of the local newspaper.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
  75. RT

    It doesn't matter if our President is black or white or purple. Displaying an image of the POTUS with a bullet hole to the side of the head will make you a likely candidate for the FBI's short list. I'm for freedom of expression, but it's demoralizing and depressing to see how the vitriolic political views of a child's parents are projected in this manner. If their parents were more educated and encountered more diversity this display of pathetic ignorance wouldn't exist. Maybe the parents should go back to school...out of state.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm |
  76. pattyanne

    You never should show anyone with a bullet hole in the head. As a retired teacher I would not have displayed that particular picture. The others are political cartoons and that is part of curriculum even in the upper elementary grades. It is not disrespect by the teacher. It is what he/she is required by the Districts/States to teach. BUT, when there is controversy the administration is usually going to back away and blame the teacher. During this Presidency, everything is blamed on racism which is just an excuse so the left doesn't have to explain their policies. They will complain over the very same things that were acceptable about Clinton, Bush, etc. I was excited when we I thought that President Obama would bring us together, but I am disillusioned at the same old message–if you don't agree with this President you are a racist.

    August 28, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
  77. John

    If the president was white there would be no problem. If this was about Bush we would not be hearing about it. Black people are racist and cannot stop talking about race.

    August 28, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • David G

      Black people are not racist,just very sensitive. You would be too if you were born into a group of people who were originally brought to this country against your will then enslaved for 200 years and even for 200 years to the present you had to fight tooth and nail to get enforcement and strengthening of the laws that freed you. Racism exist unfortunately in ALL groups in small numbers. We can either accet it as an unfortunate fact of life or look inside ourselves and with God's help learn to overcome it

      August 28, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
    • Jack

      Saying "Black people are racist" is as ignorant and bigoted a statement as saying "White people are NOT racist"....Some

      Black people are racist, some white people are racist, some PEOPLE are racist, some are not....

      You are stereotyping a group of people which is simply stupid, ignorant, and close minded.

      The bottom line is that a school allowed cartoons of YOUR SITTING PRESIDENT with a bullet hole in his head!!!!!
      There is NOTHING OK about that....EVER!

      August 28, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • Really

      Sterotype much? Your statement is patently false. In 2005, a student in Prosser Washington drew a couple of very similar posters, and was paid a visit by the secret service after the school administration called them, was reprimanded, and had his work confisctated. In Detroit in 2003 a student was made to remove a Tee Shirt that had a statement unflattering to Bush. It happened then too, and the fact that you didn't hear about it just meant you were not listening.

      August 28, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
  78. Oakspar

    Kids often take issues like politics from their parents to extream ends, because they know no better. That children don't know where the line is, is part of why they are children – so that they can be taught better without grown-up consequences for their mistakes.

    That said, the teacher should have shown more wisdom than displaying the images, rather than using them as an educational tool to turn emotional outrage into good rhetoric for one's cause.

    This is hardly worth the livelihood of a teacher, nor the time in the press, but the ADULTS of the country are so prone to the same over-emotive ideologies rather than sound reason that it is not surprising.

    August 28, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
    • jheron

      This all could have been avoided if the teacher provided some guidelines. You know, limitations are often what breeds creativity. If the kid knew he couldn't depict a bullet to the president's head as his picture, he might have actually had to think.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
  79. Tom

    1st amendment......School overreacted.

    August 28, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • jon

      Freedom of speech......everybody overreacts!!! If you dont like it then dont watch or listen to it!! The media just makes it worse its a picture of what a child thinks so one media says one thing and another says the other side! Who cares its a picture!!!!!!!!!!

      August 28, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • CollegeStudent

      There aren't the same rights in a school as there are in the outside world. However, I do believe the school over reacted. If I remember correctly, schools used pictures from the holocaust of the jews to show how people can have so much hate towards a race. The intent was to get the students heated and to have a debate over right and wrong. These Obama pictures, though offensive to most, could be used as an educational tool.

      August 28, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
      • jheron

        You bring a valid point to the discussion College student. It could have one positive effect of having a discussion about it.I do not think the teacher should have been fired, but I do think he should have placed a limit on depicting graphic violence for this assignment. The image was lazy. Forcing the kid to think a little deeper about how to depict his dislike of the President would have been achieved by placing a small limitation on the assignment.
        As you said, schools are not the same as general society..(although I am against schools being able to discipline students for anything they do outside of school.)

        August 28, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
    • Del1

      Not hardly.

      August 28, 2012 at 7:17 pm |
  80. max3333444555

    how was the picture offensive?

    August 28, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • David G

      Bullet hole in the head of The President of the United States is never a good idea to have in any kind of pictures. There crazies out there that might bt the wrong idea. Look at the Birthers for an example

      August 28, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • jheron

      How about someone manipulating photos of members of your family in such a way that would depict them as victims of violence? Would this be offensive to you?

      August 28, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
  81. bander9

    And these are the little punks you want to have rights of owning guns in the future. I can't imagine what they would don't with a loaded gun if they even felt bullied. Despite having kids and grandkids here on earth, i believe America is headed for the realization she has always dreded, her collasp! I believe it's too late for restoration. Dumb parents producing more and more idiot seeds. One country decline while another is on the incline.

    August 28, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
    • max3333444555

      i think the picture shows great talent. i think its people like you who have robbed this country of initiative and creativity.

      if we had picasso in school today we would label him a non-conformist and crush his talent

      August 28, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
      • jheron

        Couldn't the teacher simply have stated do not depict graphic violence. There is a difference between political humor assignment for school and creating art on your expressing your own opinions. That's the reality.
        I might give the one with Obama's face on the hunting sign a pass because there is some connection to the election as being hunting season, but the bullet to the head is not acceptable as a political cartoon. What is it trying to say other than the person should be shot? That is not a political cartoon.This would go for any president being depicted.

        August 28, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
  82. Lisette Lemos

    I`m not african america , and I see a lack of education and respect for the PRESIDENT, whoever colour he is.A school teacher must teach RESPECT above all, once they don´t get the right education at home

    August 28, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
    • max3333444555

      what dope r u smoking? a teacher is going to teach respo\ect for the president? they would be the ONLY person showing respect to the president then (regardless of party). teach at home first...

      btw, i tell my kids to respect almost anyone before a politician.

      August 28, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
  83. Ref

    These are a bunch of backwood racist little white punks. Their art is offencive. But it is their right to do so.

    August 28, 2012 at 11:50 am |
    • George

      haha Ref has it right and thats coming From a backwards white punk, but not racist

      August 28, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
  84. andyhangley

    I can see not problem unless the pictures promote violence against Obama. The one with the bullet hole did. The teacher should have had the common sense not to hang this one up. I do believe we have a race issue that has only gotten worse the past three years. This would not be an issue if Obama was all white.

    August 28, 2012 at 11:30 am |
  85. PleaseThink

    What about teaching kids "good taste". A "cartoon", if you want to call it that, with a bullet in his head?? And some of you see nothing wrong with it!! The President is still a human being after all. WOW just wow.

    August 28, 2012 at 11:28 am |
  86. Terrible

    It's one thing to depict political satire. Depicting a bullet hole in someone's head (anyone's head, not just the President of the United States) is over the line. Adding to the fact the drawing had to be reviewed by the instructor and approved, its borderline criminal. Furthermore, this is a JR. High School. A place full of impressionable minds, being encouraged to provide input on something, they can’t even take a part in, as they can’t even VOTE. This is shameful and terrible.

    August 28, 2012 at 11:23 am |
  87. franklin

    No-Brainer. Political cartoons are...always offensive. the Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that offensive speech is PROTECTED speech, so if we're teaching kids to make political cartoons while holding their teachers hostage to firing if the cartoons are offensive is quite a double bind for both the children and the teacher. Also, the Supreme Court has ruled that the First Amendment right to expression "doesn't end at the schoolhouse door."

    On a practical basis, the bullet hole picture should have been counselled against by the teacher. The hunting season picture obviously refers to the political campaign (with Romney in the picture, and is using humor (Warner Bros. style) to make a legitimate observation on political campaigns.

    August 28, 2012 at 11:06 am |
  88. JUSTME69

    Ive seen George Busch and even Clinton in these cartoon figures....where was the cry then.....oh there not black

    August 28, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • Terrible

      Reference one photo of a school assignment that illustrates any president. Not just George Bush; with a bullet hole in there head? This is un-American and foolish.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:30 am |
  89. bb

    I see HOPE kids are smart enough to know Oblunder is a failure, i think they will CHANGE the future and never vote another inept failure in office again. We need to move FORWARD and get this creep out of the whitehouse.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:45 am |
    • Terrible

      Then VOTE and wait for the outcome. This has nothing to do with getting him out of office. This is HATE.

      August 28, 2012 at 11:27 am |
  90. Schapkj

    God forbid that students should be taught to THINK in school. Education is about applying ideas, not mindlessly following the wishes of school administrators.
    Play the race card because the President is of African heritage. The fact he is of African extraction is just the way it is and reflecting that in cartoons is not racist.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:27 am |
    • Terrible

      God forbid that students should be BRAINWASHED......

      August 28, 2012 at 11:32 am |
  91. Cisse Mohamed

    Hi everyone,
    Let not be idealistic but reasonable. We still fixing some ideological problems resulted from the difference of the skin color. If we want to create a peaceful society, our teachers must know what to do and what not. It has nothing to do with fair or weakness; it just is a common sense. From big to small hilarious cartoons, the common sense must have its place. You may do whatever you want, but if we destroy event two kids’ social point of view, we’ll have putted in place an uncontrollable situation in the future.
    This is not about Obama. It is about the President of the United States. Somewhere in the world, some people want the entire U.S. to disappear. They are conspiring to kill, NOT ONLY OBAMA, every American they can. Thus, we cannot let our kids develop any image with a bullet in the head of the President no matter what we believe or we think.
    It is going to be a huge regression in this society. In other countries such as my native country which is Ivory Coast in West Africa, politicians have introduced the idea of the superiority/inferiority to school by some teachers 20 years ago. The consequence of that situation is the indefinite political crises with its innocent victims and incalculable collateral damages in the country as well as the West African Region.
    I understand that with the election approaching speedily, the controversy ideas and subjects may be countless, but let not forget that if we destroy ourselves, this country may look like any other country in the Middle East, Central Africa, or anywhere else.

    August 28, 2012 at 10:06 am |
  92. Tabernacle

    ... Well, there are two parts to this.
    One, yes, political cartoons are meant to spark controversial debate and highlight certain aspects of character and often they do so by dementing the obvious characteristics of a person such as skin color or size and shape of their head. However, several of those were not political cartoons. There is serious and weighty design intent put behind political cartoons and to simply thrown a picture of Obama with a bullet hole in his head is a sad and far cry from that. I think much as the Attorney said, if the media hadn't gotten involved the whole firing could have been something avoided, however it was in bad form for the teacher to put up the cartoons that weren't good.
    It is bloody ridiculous that he put up a picture of Obama with a bullet hole. Seriously, if you are a teacher it is your responsibility to at that point say, "What the H**l kid! This is not a political cartoon! You get an F for an unimaginative, poorly planned out and rather offensive piece of garbage." The fact that the teacher put that up with so little foresight should be the cause of his firing. Really, I do not imagine that he should be working there teaching kids if he can't differentiate between a good political cartoon and a poor one; that or, he is letting his personal political inclinations get in the way. Who knows, maybe he is a superb teacher, the assignment was certainly an attempt at something out of the mundane, but due to poor execution it has only caused heartache.
    Okay now time for two, this insanity surrounding Obama's race is annoying at best, destructive at worst. Black pastors/reverends, you can't have a black president and celebrate that fact while at the same time getting upset when people highlight the fact that he is black.
    Regardless of all else, in the end, it is for the community to resolve.

    August 28, 2012 at 9:13 am |
  93. Cisse Mohamed

    Hi everyone,
    Let not be idealistic but reasonable. We still fixing some ideological problems resulted from the difference of the skin color. If we want to create a peaceful society, our teachers must know what to do and what not. It has nothing to do with fair or weakness, it just a common sense. From big to small hilarious cartoons, the common sense must have its place. You may do whatever you want, but if we destroy event two kids’ social point of view, we’ll have putted in place an uncontrollable situation in the future.
    This is not about Obama. It is about the President of the United States. Somewhere in the world, some people want the entire U.S. to disappear. They are conspiring to kill, NOT ONLY OBABA, every Americans they can. Thus, we cannot let our kids develop any image with a bullet in the head of the President no matter what we believe or we think.
    It is going to be a huge regression in this society. Perhaps in other countries such as my native country which is Ivory Coast in West Africa, politicians have introduced the idea of the superiority/inferiority to school by some teachers. The consequence of that situation is the indefinite political crises with its innocent victims and incalculable collateral damages in the country as well as the West African Region.
    I understand that with the election approaching speedily, the controversy ideas and subjects may be countless, but let not forget that if we destroy ourselves, this country may look like any other country in the Middle East, Central Africa, or anywhere else.

    August 28, 2012 at 8:38 am |
  94. Cisse Mohamed

    Hi everyone,
    Let not be idealistic but reasonable. The stills fixing some ideological problems resulted from the difference of the skin color. If we want to create a peaceful society, our teachers must know what to do and what not. It has nothing to do with fair or weakness, it just a common sense. From big to small hilarious cartoons, the common sense must have its place. You may do whatever you want, but if we destroy event two kids’ social point of view, we’ll have putted in place an uncontrollable situation in the future.
    This is not about Obama. It is about the President of the United States. Somewhere in the world, some people want the entire U.S. to disappear. They are conspiring to kill, NOT ONLY OBABA, every Americans they can. Thus, we cannot let our kids develop any image with a bullet in the head of the President no matter what we believe or we think.
    It is going to be a huge regression in this society. Perhaps in other countries such as my native country which is Ivory Coast in West Africa, politicians have introduced the idea of the superiority/inferiority to school by some teachers. The consequence of that situation is the indefinite political crises with its innocent victims and incalculable collateral damages in the country as well as the West African Region.
    I understand that with the election approaching speedily, the controversy ideas and subjects may be countless, but let not forget that if we destroy ourselves, this country may look like any other country in the Middle East, Central Africa, or anywhere else.

    August 28, 2012 at 8:37 am |
  95. Eric

    The questions I had after seeing the video, and this also includes some take on what could be seen as journalistic bais...

    1> The pictures shown in the report were all anti-Obama and many were violent in nature. Did the teacher post a mix of pro and anti pictures? The report VERY briefly mentioned that there was a mix of pictures posted, but the bulk of the report made it seem like everything was anti-Obama. How many were pro, and how many were against? Was the POTUS the only subject of the political cartoon(s) or were there other subjects? Did the teacher include a balance of images – pro or against, did he post ALL pictures, or did he show bias by only posting anti-Obama ones?

    2> The images that were obviously in poor taste (bullet hole, etc) – how were they graded? Why did the teacher include these images on display? There are many schools/districts in which the teachers are "strongly encouraged" to not simply display the "A" grades, but ALL student work. Was this a similar sort of situation? Honestly, from the pictures given, I would have likely graded the bullet hole lower because it does cross a line (threatening violence upon the POTUS), wheras I think the most creative and deepest message was the Bugs Bunny/Daffy Duck image, as it showed who appears to be Mitt Romney ready to go hunting for Obama to get the White House. That student put a lot of effort into the drawing, and had a pretty strong political message in it.

    3> Schools are PUSHING for students to use higher order / critical thinking skills to make statements. To have students create political cartoons is the sheer essence of this push. To have it involve current affairs & current events serves to help engage students as it's "here and now" as opposed to "way back when." It's an excellent idea for an assignment.

    4> Did anyone else notice in the report that everyone who spoke on camera against the images & against the teacher was African-American, and everyone who was supporting the teacher was white? Coincidence? True evidence of racist intent by the teacher/school/district? Or selective interviewing by the journalist? Does such a thing really make much of a difference in this report?

    5> What does this say about the state of race in our society when a caricature of the current POTUS is (to some) automatically racist because he is African-American? I.E. Make an image comparing Obama to a monkey and it is racist, whereas a different President as a monkey is political humor. Just offering that one for sake of discussion.

    6> As a Social Studies educator, this is EXACTLY the sort of nightmare that I fear. I go to great lengths to remain objective in my classroom when it comes to controversial issues. Often I'll say "I'm playing devil's advocate" or "some people believe" or "One way of looking at it" when I'm saying either something I don't agree with or if it is something I do support – and I present both with equal passion to intentionally mask my personal beliefs (I want them forming their own. Not simply adopting mine). I don't even tell the kids if I'm a Republican, Democrat, or other. But I still get paranoid when posting pictures of people, or listing opinions, etc BECAUSE someone could claim that I'm biased just because I put a particular politician's picture physically above another's, or listed a particular viewpoint before the other, or had too many pictures up supporting one side but not the other.

    August 27, 2012 at 10:33 pm |
    • Libby

      Very good post Eric. I think most of the posters on here had their mind made up on what this was/is about based on their own views and did not take the time to acutually listen to the report.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
    • IMHO

      Excellent questions! I was wondering many of the same things. In particular, were ALL the cartoons displayed? Without such answers, it is impossible to form an opinion on the treatment of the teacher.

      August 28, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
    • MSgtRet

      Eric, this is the most useful post on here, and raises many questions I had not even thought to ask. Thanks for enlightening us so.

      August 28, 2012 at 3:11 pm |