By Sonya Hamasaki, CNN
Los Angeles (CNN) – On a brisk, spring-like day in March, Diana Rivera walked into a classroom at Centinela Valley Adult School, just like she’d done everyday for nearly the past two months. She was eager to hear a lecture in her “medical assistant” class, a course she believed would be key to successfully starting a career in the medical field. Getting there had been a struggle.
“I searched and searched for so long,” she said. “I tried to get in three years ago, but there was a waiting list.”
The medical assistant course was started 12 years ago, and over the years, it grew to become one of the most popular on campus. But on that day, just as Rivera was settling into her coursework, everything changed.
“They just came in, gave us notice that school was over, and took us out," she said.
And just like that, her dreams vanished. The class and its instructor were suddenly eliminated due to cuts in state funding.
“It was devastating,” Rivera said. “I was let down.”
But as she was escorted off campus that morning, what she didn’t know was that her teacher was also about to become her champion.
Educator Cristina Chiappe, who created the course and has taught it since its inception, suddenly found herself unemployed. And while she no longer had a physical location to teach, she never once thought to stop the class.
“I didn’t want to leave my students with nothing. They cut the money back. This is not all about money, it’s about education,” she said.
So Chiappe came up with an idea – one that her students and onlookers have described as “brave”, “risky” and “heroic.”
She decided to continue teaching her group of displaced students, and open her own school.
"The students wanted to continue their education," she said. "I proposed to them, if we can open our own site…we'd be able to buy all the equipment so that they can have hands-on training. So we did it."
Her students were thrilled, but nervous at the same time.
"We knew it was going to be something different. You don’t hear this every day. We were ready for the ride, but also a little scared," Rivera said.
Of the 20 students enrolled in the original class, 16 young women pledged to give Chiappe their full support and embark on this adventure.
But first, there were some barriers to confront. Chiappe successfully registered her not-for-profit school, South Bay Careers, with the state of California and Los Angeles County. However, her application for a business license from the City of Lawndale was denied due to insufficient parking, she said.
“I was pretty shook up,” she said.
Thinking about how she didn’t want to see her students let down a second time, Chiappe decided to continue her class in a secret location.
She agreed to show CNN her classroom on condition we don’t disclose its whereabouts. Each of her students paid $1,600, which covered rent, liability insurance, utilities, a television, Internet service, and medical supplies. Chiappe herself went without a salary.
The doors were open within weeks.
“I couldn’t believe it,” student Sally Montenegro said. “The first day we were in class, everybody was laughing. We couldn’t believe she got the place, she had the tables and everything set up.”
Many of her students couldn’t afford to pay the tuition upfront. So she bought text books and medical equipment as the money trickled in.
“Little by little, she started buying [the instructional materials], and we were always excited when new equipment came in to get the hands-on training,” Montenegro said.
The room slowly filled to include exam tables, stethoscopes, an electrocardiogram, baby mannequins and surgical scissors.
“It was a team effort,” Chiappe said. “The students and I, we did it together. I can’t take all the credit. They believed in my dream.”
But that dream didn’t come without tremendous personal sacrifice.
“The rent is due on the first of the month, and if I didn’t have the money, I had to reach into my pocket,” Chiappe said. “When I was laid off from Centinela, my husband and I (who is also a teacher), sat down and we looked at the numbers, and there was no way I could keep my house.”
The Chiappe family decided to sell her home and rent. “All the efforts should be in the school, versus paying the mortgage,” she said.
Her efforts paid off. Chiappe successfully led her 16 students, who she says she considers to be “family” now, through the course. She also placed them into externships with physician offices in the South Bay community. When they complete 160 hours of service, the young women will receive a course completion certificate and be on their way to starting full-time careers as a medical assistant.
Once their class work was complete, the group even staged a small graduation ceremony, complete with the requisite caps and gowns.
It was only then, as the students celebrated their success, that Chiappe told them of the missing license, and the need to hold their class in a secret location.
“I wanted the students to finish their program. I said from the beginning, ‘I’m going to finish with them, and then everything here will go into storage and I’ll get a proper permit,” Chiappe said.
The students were floored when they heard this. “It came as a shock,” Rivera said. “It’s very brave of her to do.”
“The risk she has taken for us is just amazing, there are no barriers for her,” said Montenegro.
Centinela Valley Adult School has not reinstated their medical assistant course, said Jose Fernandez, superintendent of the Centinela Valley Union High School District. If one of the two state education tax initiatives are approved in the November election, the board will address the possibility of bringing it back.
Moving forward, Chiappe plans to focus on cultivating South Bay Careers.
Her first step is to ensure she has a city business license.
“I will do what I need to get things done, but the law is the law. And I will follow the law, and get the proper permits," she said.
She is currently scouring different cities to work in and is applying for business licenses within those communities.
“In order for me to apply, they have a fee. Obviously, I don’t have the money to pay, but God will provide. That is my rule,” she said.
The risk and the sacrifices she made over the last five months were a small price to pay, she said.
“I’m very humble when it comes to what I do. I get emotional about this because this is something I really believe the students need," she said. "Many of them don’t have a chance to have a formal education. Some of them are single moms, some of them don’t have jobs, some of them are on welfare. I know them well, because I’m part of them.”
Cristina Chiappe and students, ¡"Adelante"!
She sold her house, operated from a secret location, took money out of her own pocket to buy supplies, risked being fined or shut down if she was discovered, poured her heart and soul into the school and was successful.......BUT SHE DIDN"T BUILD THAT.
You cant be serious. You are still repeating that B.S. Are you not reasonably educated enough to have watched the whole tape.
This person is a clown. She is still repeating drivel.
That BS is a spoken reality, spoken by our biggest BSer, your pot smoking, crack smoking POTUS.
it should be noted the local school system cut funding. Anyone who reads knows CA has NO money to fund anything. So it was choice between the kids education and cutting adult classes then the choice is easy. It also did not say how much the original tuition was. I believe it was free.
No, the class was fee based. The student paid $1,050. I agree that kids are first! The only problem is that in poor communities like mine the parents of those kids are the one that take those classes. The parents don't have education meaning a trade o they are unemployed and, the entire family suffers!
Thank yuo for your time.
It seems to be a difficult concept for people, that by educating the parents, you ARE helping lift both the parents AND the children out of their poverty. Help them become well-enough educated to become gainfully employed, and life gets better for all. Thank you for all that you're doing!
wow, you mean someone was able to achieve without government help or money? What a concept.
At a personal sacrifice, yet: she gave up owning a house to teach. Imagine that: just having one house and giving it up. Some of our politicians have more houses than they can remember.
So she did what a typical American did up until about the 1970s. This is how America was built not by Government handouts, but by Americans sacrificing to build a better future. And if they are smart and lucky enough to also make money off it.
Funny how the only government regulations standing in her way were Local regulation and not Federal ones. But for some reason Republicans love to claim that moving all power to the states would magically just fix everything. If not for Federal aid her program wouldn't even have existed in the first place. Many of the people taking her class were on welfare. Who do you think covers that? So in effect the government is paying to educate these people and get them back to work. But if you would like to see how successful a nation can be when the government gets out of the way, try Mexico or worse. Their economies are booming aren't they?
And despite government red-tape. It often seems like government wants us to fail.. Wants to keep us on our knees.
Local ordinances are among the most partisan, bitter, selfish, and stupid regulations out there. Small towns freequently pass onerous regulations to keep certain minorities out, upper-income communities will frequently pass ordinances designed specifically to keep poor people out
Heck the GOP in MN tried to get one through that would have prevented poor people from having money!
You know I am about fed up with this idea that we have no responsibility to our fellow citizens in respect to education and health care.
Quit acting like a little selfish child and let's pool our resources to help everyone get ahead.
F**k Trickle Down Economics. They never worked and it is amazing that these uneducated Republicans still promote this.
If anything the county, state and Federal government should fund education. If people aren't educated, they don't work decent paying jobs. If they don't work decent paying jobs, they can't pay taxes.
I am amazed at how she handled the situation and the care she had for her students. well done, very well done
This article shows to what desgree we are failing in indication and ethics.... Medical assistants trained in " secret classes" for 8 weeks?!!! First if all how are they going to describe on their resumes the " secrecy " of their certificates? Or it is the green light for those cheap MDs in private practacies to pay them even less, to keep the wages of offically certified medical assistants really low ( lower thet janitors)?Who is monitoring the quality of training equipment and educational methodics? All of you being so exited for this women : do you understand that this illegal " graduates" will be checking your VITAL SIGNS like blood pressure, pulse, temperature, sterilizing surgical equipment, setting up EKG.....????SCARY
Agree completely. Amazing how many people, including those in charge don't realize how our system works: education means good jobs, good jobs means good pay, good pay means taxes.
Not enough parking? No, she just didn't have enough money to grease the palm of the city clerk for a permit.
welcome to California
Welcome to city politics in general. GOP-controlled communities are equally corrupt. Local politics is the nastiest form of partisanship, and selfishness. You think the Presidential race is bad? Get behind the scenes at a local campaign for mayor or commissioner or something sometime....you'll want to throw up.
I doubt many drive cars. Probably don't need half the parking required by the city. Government regs without thought.
And she built it herself.. Dispite the government
Yes, she built the building, and manufactured all the medical equipment, and installed the plumbing, electricity and sewer services she uses. You are an asshat.
No, YOU are the azzhat! She built the class! She built the will to persevere against the loss of the first classroom.. She built the pride in her students to complete the course in spite of setbacks. SHE is a hero!
So true, johnt. Important you keep reminding people that it is individuals who build businesses, not the government. As you see in one of the replies to your comment, there are those like JanetMermaid who have never built anything and have absolutely no idea how the economy actually functions. They simply repeat what the demagogues spout and then congratulate themselves for "being knowledgeable" when, in reality, they are spouting simplistic nonsense that anyone who's ever studied capitalism and free market economies will recognize as pure drivel.
You should have learned not to call names in kindergarten, but apparently you didn't and that makes you what you called this other person. Shame on you!!!! You didn't even offer any proof for your point. All the things you stated, the government didn't provide. The person who she was renting from did.
The person you replied to is correct. This was built despite the governments over-regulated attempts to stifle this women's attempt to help the community and others. If the government was more into serving the people as they should be instead of just being the heavy hand of enforcement for regulations that don't always make sense, the government would get more respect.
The government does not build anything...people do.
You guys are overreacting. Janet isn't saying she didn't build it without the gov't, she's saying she didn't build it by herself (she needed the equipment, building, etc) which is what the OP is insinuating. Everyone is so quick to defend someone that they aren't even paying attention to the post. That said, it does take will power to put something together which this teacher did.
Janet hang in there. Funny how the haters don't address your comment but deem fit to attack you personally. Might I add that many of the people taking her course are on welfare. The government is paying for business in effect. Also if all we need is the government to get out of the way in order to create jobs, how come countries with less government support aren't booming? Logic is lost on this crowd.
I think you mean I'm a asset to society right? I'm also pretty sure she saw this not only as a passion but a business opportunity. And good for her. I'm going with the generals that sit behind desks in DC that have never seen the front side of a war yet send our boys (and girls) in harms way are akin to those who don't vote yet voice there opinion and those that have never built a business and try to tell us how it is done. Kudos to this brave individual that was willing to risk it all to pursue a idea of starting a business. Feel free to start your own SUCCESSFUL business (statistically. Most businesses fail in the first three years with the owner betting their home and retirement) and then tell Uss the government built it for you. But regardless of your lack of knowledge in this area – thanks for your input.
JanetMermaid – Reread what you just said and convince yourself who is best described by the posterior of the human body. The point of the original post was that the government worked against Chiappe's effort, not helped. And the things that you cite are all provided by private ("free") enterprise – not the government. Most of the business portion of Lawndale resides on Hawthorne Blvd which has parking on each side of the street as well as a large median parking strip along the entire length of Lawndale – providing way adequate parking. In fact, most of the time that median marking is empty. The city's restriction was likely unwarranted.
MermaidA$$Hat, are you really implying the gov't built the building, did the plumbing, ran the electrical, constructed the facilty, etc...? You can't possibly be that dumb...actually you can and obviously are by your idiotic post. Gov't is not there to fund, invest, or provide loans. Not what it was created to do. Banks are for loans, investment companies for investing, and private businesses for growing the economy. Gov't is there to ensure no one is treated unfairly, not to redistribute so those who couldn't can. This creates no incentive for those who can to grow (not if you're going to take more for being successful). That's business 101. I'm sure Obama failed that course.
@Lessgovernment, If the banks were in fact lending then she would have been able to lease or buy a local with parking. And no the government doesn't give loans but it does insure them which in normal economies does encourage banks to give risky small business loans. The government also allows for bankruptcy which Mitt has taken great advantage of. In fact without the safety net of bankruptcy Mitt would be poor. But you just keep believing we would all be better off without the government. BTW hows the lack of government support helping small businesses in Mexico?
PRECISELY johnt. Komrade BoBo has absolutely zero concept of how a capitalist economy operates.
This article was wonderful as well as encouraging. Self-sacrificing oneself for others.
And how did she get her education? How did she learn what she needed to know in order to teach the class? Odds are she paid little to nothing for her education, thanks to.....yes the government, duh. The community college and State University system in California are ridiculously inexpensive. Also many of her students are on welfare. So the government is paying her and paying to get her students back to work. If you hate the help the government gives try moving to a country who's government doesn't care. I am sure they have lots of jobs....NOT.
Oh i am so sure that the board of directors got a hefty raise for this. Shame on them. Why the"hey-hey" did they "escort" students off campus. Those with power want us STUPID so we will agree to everything they do. Dumb populace votes for dumb government.
as long as obama is president this is the way we will have to go. . .on our own
Really Scott? The Republicans are the ones that want to cut education and any type of assistance to those that are not wealthy or well to do. You know, the 47%, the other half of America that Romney says he won't represent.
Yes because Obama has omnipotent control over local school boards. Local School boards were never corrupt before Obama. Stop watching Fox.
That's right, because nobody wants to cut education funding and destroy the safety net for individuals down on their luck like Obama does. Don't you have that backwards?
If we survived 8 years of George W., we'll survive Obama easily.
But the bottom line is that this story has NOTHING to do with national politics. If you want to blame someone, blame California politics (I believe our beloved Arnold comes to mind).
Prop 30 and 38 are going down, support for Prop 30 has fallen below 50%, Prop 38's polling never showed it passing. Boo hoo, guess the secret classes will have to continue.
can we just put women in charge now?
Which ones? Gloria Steinem? Hillary? The pitbull with lipstick? No thanks.
Congrats... dumbest comment ever
The most interesting part of this story is how bureaucratic regulations almost prevented a small business from opening. Here it was parking, but there are thousands of these little rules that are a real burden on our economy, and with Obama it is getting worse by the day.
yes zoning laws all just popped up when Obama came into office. Half these towns still have dueling statutes
You people are utter morons... Tim did NOT say Obama CREATED the rules, he said he is making it WORSE!!! OH, CNN PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID!!
Um TimZ – how exactly is Obama to blame for a city ordinance?? He isn't. Not every situation is political. This particular situation is spiritual. Praise the Lord that this woman trusted God to make sure 16 people were trained for a better life. Thank-you Cristina Chiappe for following where God led you!! Many blessing to you AND also to you TimZ.
really? the most interesting part of the story is the LOCAL (or city or state) requirements that prevented the license? Not that the teacher continued with no salary. Not that the teacher SOLD her home. Not that the teacher is trying to secure a different location meeting the requirements? Government = Federal, State, AND LOCAL government. Almost all the laws regulating small businesses are NOT federal government laws but local and state level laws. Get your head out of your ass.
Thanks, my thoughts exactly! I guess President Obama is to blame for your constipation as well. Jeez!
TimZ, please make a distinction between federal regulations and state/local regulations. Your segue to blaming Obama here is tantamount to a lie.
Oh Please. Quite spouting off fox news BS. Obama has nothing to do with a city ordinance and you know it. As for federal regulations, they are fewer now than when Obama took office and you know that too. Or you should if you would pull your head out of the fox news sand.
From the Heritage Foundation:
Overall, the Obama Administration imposed 75 new major regulations from January 2009 to mid-FY 2011, with annual costs of $38 billion. There were only six major deregulatory actions during that time, with reported savings of just $1.5 billion.
Paul – You're citing the Heritage Foundation for your statis on regulation? Per Wikipedia: "The Heritage Foundation is an American conservative think tank based in Washington, D.C...."
Now THERE is an unbiased source for your statistic!. Might as well quote Fox "News."
jesus weeping christ on a candy cane cross. Is there anything that isn't Obama's fault? Get real and grow up.
I'll never forget that saying!
Obama has nothing to do with parking in California – get real.
Local elections and ordinance play a far greater role in your life than national politics will. It's an absolute shame they get tossed to the wayside in favor of the President and the Senate by voters. Your city/town mayor and state governor are the ones you need to pay attention to in the long run.
@Gladiatorgiirl - are you f-ing kidding me? I live in one the reddest states our there (sadly) - Texas. I am trying to open a small business and the hoops I have to jump through are insane. These regulations have been here since Bush was our disaster of a governor. Do NOT blame the Democrats for these types of laws.
Thank you. This is what I am talking about. Anyone who has really started a business knows that the main obstacles are local. The Fed doesn't even come into play until you start making a significant profit. If anything the Fed helps because it insures risky small business loans.
TimZ – you are an asshat.
Bad attempt at partisan propaganda, TimZ. Having adequate parking for a business has been a regulation (local and state, actually - I doubt federal) for decades now, because common sense dictates you have to have so much parking to accommodate so many customers and employees coming and going. To try to pin that on President Obama is ludicrous. You'd be the first one to bellyache if you pulled up to a restaurant that seats 100, but only had five parking spaces.
Ah, the ignorance and backwards logic of Republicans. So a local regulation hurts business and you blame it on the Fed. You claim that we should give all power to the States? I have run a business and the Fed isn't the road block. Private insurance, Private Banks, Local codes and fees....and then if you are lucky enough to make a profit then maybe you have to worry about the fed. I would rather deal with Federal regulations and Rules that are applied equally across the board then deal with local corruption. Moving power more to the states only makes it easier to hide the corruption of our politicians.
Obama has NOTHING to do with zoning laws or city code requirements. I am a former Councilerson in another city, so yes, I do know this for fact.
I stopped reading when I saw that "every day" was spelled "everyday."
It's a good story.
Everyone knows that grammar is far more important than content.
Of course! Refuse the message because you don't like the messenger! What a short-sighted dip.
So, when there's a grammatical mistake, you refuse to read the article?
All of that effort for a "completion certificate?" Folks, this was one class in an adult school, not a degree. The students didn't come out of it any more prepared for a new career. Sounds to me like they paid twice... once for the original class, once for the bootleg one, and all for a piece of paper you could run off a copy machine.
As far as I'm concerned, you could pretty much run ANY degree off a copy machine. I've worked with TOO many college grads who had no idea what they were doing. So many in fact, I've come to the conclusion that a college degree (in most fields, not all) is mostly useless in the real world. I'll take someone with a few years of real world experience in a field over someone with crisp new college degree any day.
Medical assistants do not need a 2 or 4 year degree. The requirement is completion of a certification class.
Anyone can walk in and get an externship. You don't need to pay over a grand to do that. And her "certificate" is completely unaccredited... employers won't touch it.
I saw the video... that was not fourteen grand worth of rent, equipment and supplies. She came out of this deal fine, and her students have nothing usable. Please look past the "feel good" aspects of this story and look at it objectively.
I guess you missed the part where the students were placed in externships with local doctors. Though not a degree, the certificate means that they have been trained and have shown they can work in the field. This is supposed to be a feel-good story, and we sure don't have many of those. You probably don't like kittens and puppies either.
Well, then go run one off on a copy machine and get a job! Certificates of Completion are accepted at the state level for MANY jobs and will get you past the entry level in many cases. For instance, in California, when I was going to colleg, the cert in Mechanical-Electrical Technology would automatically qualify you for a Level II job in heating and airconditioning. A degree would do no better.
I'm sure that's how it worked when you were in "colleg," sir. I'll also bet your colleg was accredited and had a valid business license. Sha-ZAM!
Uh Patrick, they got the KNOWLEDGE & TRAINING to make it possible for them to work as a medical assistant. Did you not read the article?
It takes more than one class to become an MA, Annie. Much more than an unaccredited completion certificate from a bootleg school.
Our government should learn a lesson from this. Necessity is the mother of invention. When you keep giving people money for doing nothing .. they stay doing nothing. Stop "extending" benefits & people will find a way to start working. This woman shows exactly how it should work!
@ Ict-T That is a lowest common denominator statement. To say that an educator was "doing nothing" then my guess is you are uneducated, and if you are you neglected to understand the lessons and the effort the teachers who wasted time on you were making. I've got two college degrees and I've been lucky enough to have some excellent educators, all of which I have enough respect for to refrain from saying their job amounts to a form of welfare.
You missed his point. He never said the teacher was doing nothing. On the contrary, he said she should be held up as an example to the government, which chooses to give welfare to people who do nothing and expect them to suddenly change. I'm happy you have two degrees. So do I. Mine are actually in education. I've seen many teachers forced to do exactly what this woman has done, which is to put the burden on their own shoulders while the government gives money away to people unwilling to work for it.
To me this just shows how dysfunctional the whole system is. There was another while back on all this training for "green" jobs only when the people finished there weren't any jobs. This is a field where there is a need and they get their funding cut? I believe training people is important but we need some common sense – something that seems to be lacking in Washington.
Another genius blaming Washington for local and state mismanagement.
Welfare moms were taking her course when it was funded by the government and it was cheaper. Now they still took the course but it's more expensive. So how does this support anything you said? First off, the fact that people on welfare were taking the class meant that they were using government help and trying to get a job and get off of government aid. So that means that the system is working. But you would rather the government pay more of your money to pay for the same education? That is like here in Florida. Gov Scott said that if we tested people asking for govt aid, for drugs, we would save money. But instead it is costing taxpayers more. Flawed logic based on ignorance does not help any.
Stock up on amo now,why wait. Looks like your crazy americans will be killing each other soon instead of addressing the real problems that have been created by the ultra weathy by outsourcing, downsizing, rightsizing everything so they can have more and more and more themselves. You the voter have the real power and you need to excercise your power to put into place a govenment that will work to undo what has been done over the last 50 years in your country and stop blaming the end of the world on Mr. Obama. He inherited a very serious mess and you expect him to fix everything in 4 years. Go ask yourself, what in hell have you fixed in the last four years.
Reagan fixed Carter's mess in 4 years. Obama is the end of the owrld brutha.
We can certainly see how educated you are...simply by reading your misspelled response!
And it took Clinton 8 years to fix Bush's and Reagan's screwups then Bush Jr got in and took the country from a SURPLUS in the budget to a deficit. That is what Mr Obama inherited.
So Obama made the deficit worse, in fact double down on it and you are trying to make him like Clinton. By your own reasoning you should get rid of Obama and replace him with someone more Clintonlike, ie Romney.
HWB: You seem to be confused. Obama has not increased the deficit. In fact, he has raised the deficit less than any president in history (by percent). I believe you're confusing deficit with debt.
Yes Reagan had a vision for the future...NOT. If we had bit the bullet and if the Republicans had supported Carters attempts to get us energy independent, then we would be in much better shape now.
You are really phucked up Revolution. Go back to your birth place and make your nightmare happened.
Xenophobe. Look it up.
You can not be serious that we need to give Obama 4 more years because he was left with such a mess. Complete BS. The man said himself that if he didn't get things changed he would be a one term president. Well, his term is over. Bye Bye Bama
If Romney wins, you'll be saying bye bye Social Security and bye bye medicare. Bye Bye real small business. Bye bye manufacturing. Bye bye workers rights. Bye bye your hard earned income because even though you will pay a lower tax rate you will see a huge increase in hidden fees, just like when Mitt was gov. Bye Bye.
Such a sensationalist, misleading story...
And your version of it is???
OK, YOU opened the can of worms. Tell us EXACTLY where the story is misleading.
YOU GO LADY !!!!!!!!!!
It is wrong to keep anybody from getting an education. What is wrong with this country. Back in my time vocational education was great for people who needed an income now What is wrong with taking care of your own. Lets get back to the basics.
Here in the "North Central Texas" area (DFW Metroplex), some of the Public School Districts are establishing "Trade Schools". As there is a serious shortage of individuals knowleable in the many "Trades". With some serious effort, Public School Districts all over the country can do this.
I still remember my HS counselor (1971) telling me, "You don't want to work with your hands all your life, do you". Well, working with my hands (and my brain) is allowing me to retire at 59, had saved me $thousands in not having to hire someone every time I needed some little thing fixed, and gave me a sense of pride and accomplishment that NO paper-pusher could ever achieve!
She didn't do that! The government did that....TO HER!! Now that's an example of enterpenuership. Yes she did this IN SPITE of the government. Go California dems!! They need to giver her a business license, building space somewhere, and a freaking MEDAL!! They'll probably run her down with the bullet train and Obama will demand a penalty because she was teaching medicine without health insurance.
Don't blame Obama for the nutty school district's goofy action. I'm sure that if there is a way for the feds to help on this, the Obama administration will be right in there. More power to the lady. Is there an address where a donation can be sent to help her?
Yeah I like that! CNN could easy setup a "donation bin" site for worthy causes like this.
Read Gordon, I said CALIFORNIA. Since Obama claimed the day of his election was when the ocean levels stop rising and the world begins to heal I could blame him for the ocean levels rising and all the sickness in the world based on his own assessment of his capabilites. Somebody who thinks that much of themselves, if it were true, can be blamed for pretty much anything. This is the problem with believing your own press releases.
Absolutely Obama is to blame! Is he also 'not to blame' for the Bengazi attacks? Clinton taking the blame does not cut it. "The Buck Stops Here." Recall that motto? You've heard him laugh at the claim that "Excessive and often unnecessary regulation" is crushing small business in America. Here is a perfect example. Throw him out. He is a liar who will say anything to hold on to power. Obamas interests (Himself) do not include what is best for America.
@johnymac60 so we should blame Republicans for 9/11 attack too. How come Republicans did not see the 9/11 coming. Oh I know, it's an epic failure from Republican administration. Gotcha....
I worked with a veterinarian for ten years, if Republicans want to cut budgets let them, I was a marine for three years, I know how to get into gated communities butcher the rich to get the best cuts and those lovely Martha Stewart herb gardens will be a big help, so go ahead make us desperate we are 300 million strong and nothing in heaven or on earth including the military could even slow us down. See you in hell folks.
Did you "borrow" some of the veternarian's magical pills usually meant for those equine in nature?
Where you get this "we" from kemosabe. Per all the amen's you're gettin' in this thread I think that 300,000,000 that you think is gonna follow you into martha stewarts house consists of you and your shadow. Sounds like you got serious personal problems and it's a good thing you don't work with people.
So, just what will YOU be doing when the electricity goes out and you have no food for three weeks? The Army has already studied this with some of their occupying forcs and the results ain't pretty! Get prepared now.
You sound like one of those Occupy Wall Street idiots. You THINK the country is behind you, but when it comes down to it, you'll have those ame unwashed 3000 or so that camped out in Zuccotti park. We won't need the military to mow you down, a few homeowners with pistols and hunting rifles will end your attempt at cannibalism.
OK..obvious questions of legality.
I'm not going into that...not worth the argument... I will only say that I am glad that the students got the education they were looking to get.
My questions would be 1) They couldn't wait until the course was over to shut down the original school?? and 2) Where did the money paid to the original school they were attending through tuition, grants, etc..go??
~Blessed Be to all~
Regarding question number 2: The program was run through the local public school district's Adult School, so there would not have been tuition. You may have to provide some basic supplies like you do at a regular high school.
Hope that helps!
Hey if the state can't afford it, the state can't afford it. We have to face the fact that we are living in a time of transition and we need to roll with the changes. The days of publicly funded services are coming to an end and the adjustment will not be smooth or pretty but as long as there are heroic entrepreneurs like the lady in the story, some of the services can be preserved in the private sector. This isn't a horror story, this is simply what will inevitably happen in the coming years. State expenditures will shrink and the private sector will take over. It's just a new phase in the natural development of the economic system that has built the best country on earth!
Cutting the future is not the best way to pay for things. These are people who could become tax-paying citizens - except that the state has no interest in doing what is necessary to let them succeed. Education is not a luxury - it's as necessary as other forms of infrastructure.
Kudos for having the courage to explain a basic truth: if you want it, the only honest method to get there is to work for it yourself. People should stop trying to justify why others should pay for their opportunity to have a rewarding future.
You make the end of prosperity sound so good... now if we could just get rid of those pesky regulations that prevent altruistic billionaires from saving the world, right?
You do not cut the roots to save a tree.
You are so on point! And so many don't even see what is coming down the pipe line. The lady is a hero!!!
Ridiculous, the most important thing this country can fund is education for our young people, and the politicians do not talk enough about it, it is the best investment our country can make.
David, I believe in free enterprise and that this Country needs more Entrepenuers, but this selfless act performed by this Woman has nothing to do with Entrepenuership. Entrepenuers, mostly decent people, start a busness to hopefully make a profit. This Woman decided to sacrifice her home to help these students with no expectation of a reward other than the satisfaction that she helped her students.
Furthermore, we elect Goverment officials to work for the public, not to line their pockets. The Gorvement exists to protect and sirve the people. Part of that service is to help people that dream of having an education become a reality so they too can become Entrepenuers or in this case help others in the medical field while earning a living.
However you have the right to your opinion even if uninformed, and we thank you for it....
That will be all fine and dandy the day that government stands directly accountable to us taxpayers for county, state and federal politicians larking off to fat-cat party conventions on our nickel, pork barrel projects, sweetheart no-bid defense contracts, bailouts for mismanaged private corporations, expeditionary wars justified by threats that don't exist, multi-million-dollar jet fighters that can perform no better than Korean-war vintage planes without the risk of asphixiating the pilots, tanks that the Army does not want or need, commodities trading deregulation that benefits a very narrow sector of the population at the expense of everybody else, lobby politics, expensive-to-enforce laws based on the religious beliefs of one sector of the population, insider-trading immunity for congressmen...do I have enough space???
That was a very good start! I can add a couple: $80+ BILLION spent on chasing the boogey man at airports (and soon to be train and bus stations), $ Billions spent on "re-education camps", Executive Orders for confiscation of 401Ks, farms, forced labor, etc. Appointing Monsanto lawyers, etc to high-powered decision-making positions within the Government.
So the state couldn't afford it. Someone stood up and said "We're going to do it anyway, because it's needed". Now people like you are saying "No, wait, you can't educate people! We said Too BAD! You have to be uneducated! You just HAVE TO!"
Thank God for the G.O.P. cutting services to people, education is just stupid. All these people that want to learn something can do it on their own and with someone elses money. What is known in the world is already written about, there is no further need to learn new stuff!
Um - the democrats run California. Blame the real culprits, Bill
Can you look beyond "blame" it is such a distraction for seeing the reality of the matter at hand
I recently went back to my hometownin California to visit friends. I was amazed that a state with such huge financial problems, and cities declaring bankrupcies all over the place had money to install grand archways over streets proclaiming your entry to the city, big "Welcome to (insert city here)"monuments on street corners, etc.
If you believe that education is expensive, try paying for stupidity.
california is now and has been run by democrats for decades. blame Jerry brown and his democrat friends.
Jerry Brown also hates children, if hi tax increase dooesn't pass he will cut from education, not across thboard, orr high speed rail, or cut programs for adults. he will punish the childrens education
You must have fallen off the idiot truck, California was run by the idiot Arnold for the last 6 years! REPUBLICAN! Now it is being run by Jerry Brown and he came into this mess of budget cuts that Arnold did to our Education System. Get your facts straight, then post your opinion.
The Jerry Brown school of taxation, "Give me your money, or the children get it!"
And it wasn't Arnold who misappropriated funds, created the budgets, or flushed billions to the public-sector unions. That was a team effort. Where do you think all of the legislation that he signed came from?
ROFL California has been run by Dems for the last 30 years. Yes you can say..uh but Arnold was republican...ya and who controlled the senate and house with super majority in both?? Democrats. And the Dems just passed the BULLET TRAIN that now looks to cost 200 billion..a train no one wants but politicans and their union buddies. Good job Dems! Fools.
Ignorance is Bliss, Hmmm Bill? YDF
Another way fascist CNN censors yor thoughts is to reply THIS IS A DUPLICATION OF WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY SED even though I haven't written anything before.
What a wacko story. NO, super-wacko. America gets weirder and weirder everyday.
This teacher, Cristina Chiappe, should be nominated for, and is certainly worthy of winning, "CNN Hero" status. I hereby nominate her.
Yes, this was heroic and selfless. Too bad the "education" she imparted is worthless when it comes to getting a job. She wasn't a liscenced school, and thus, her students didn't actually graduate. I don't think it was her intent, but she basically took the students money without giving them anything tangible in return.
Read please...she got the school licensed just not a local business license.
Except for getting them jobs with doctors.
Too bad YOUR education didn't include reading comprehension! Maybe you missed this one little statement in the article:
But first, there were some barriers to confront. Chiappe successfully registered her not-for-profit school, South Bay Careers, with the state of California and Los Angeles County.
Maybe you missed this little tidbit:
She also placed them into externships with physician offices in the South Bay community.
Lay off her. She read it fine. This "teacher" has no blessing of an accreditor or the Department of Education. It's not a school. It never will be, and she scammed these students. She couldn't pay the mortgage because she couldn't pay the mortgage (likely a pre-existing problem before this whole thing came up), not because she wanted to invest in this school.
This is a super-wacko story & is so phony abt America supporting real education.Barf!
Barf is about all you are good for.
So secret that it's on CNN!
Way to go California, shutting education out and causing it to have to operate in secret like an illegal activity.
While I applaud her intent to teach, if she was operating illegally, the liability insurance she claims to have had was likely null and void. Furthermore, it's also likely the location she was using was not inspected and up to standards for classroom safety. Taking money for a class that was operating illegally is fraud.
She put these kids at risk and set a poor example with her criminal behavior. Sorry, but the ends do not justify the means.
Shows the tremendous California bureaucracy for what it is–anti procuctivity–anti jobs–tax and regulate.
Ah, so throw away the program because they aren't able to provide enough parking within 200 meters of the business. Sound reasonable requirement to just reject the education of these darker skinned women, right? If all these latina's had a bit lighter skin or a more anglo last name i'm sure they would be dealing with the same problems, right? What? You mean this isn't a problem in white areas? They just need to pay more for the education, that's all, just ask their parents for more money for school or trade in some of their stocks or bonds to pay the higher costs of a "good" education... not like you learn anything different, but it will have a white sounding college name on the degree and have many white professors who will pat you on the back after you pay their exorbitant tuition...
"oh, please" –
Oh, Puleeeze !
Not everything comes down to racism.
Hey, someone's illegal ? They cant afford to pay ? no problem ! Free medical care. Cant get to work ? (you know, the work they're not supposed to do LEGALLY?) no problem – driver's licenses !
No place to teach ? NO problema ! Just change the rules to suit them !
Out of state tuition ? no problem !
No parking ? no problem...well, at least so long as you're not white !
School hasnt satisfied all the legalities ? no aye problema !
Change the rules !
Too poor to have a health license to sell food ? Nooooo problem ! They're selling on the streets and they're latino – nooooo, problem...I eman, they're POOR, so it's ok to put the health of others at risk, right ?
One set of rules for rich – another for poor.
One set for whites – another for people of color.
Hey, let's just do away with the parking requirement – I mean, the residents on the adjacent streets who will have to deal with no parking for their cars....as well as the trash and congestion – who cares ?
maybe all the social services to illegal immigrants in CA are contributing to the govt's insolvency? Jacka$$.
This has everything to do with safety and nothing to do with race. If something had happened to one of these kids, the truth would've come out and this woman would've been vilified for her misdeeds. She was very, very lucky.
I do belive that the "scribes and phariese" thought the same of what Jesus said. Wait until you see where they are today and as you burn in hell that Jesus wa at the "edges of legality" as well. And if "father Abraham will allow me to (he wouldn't in the case of Lazarus but maybe I can talk him into it) I will "dip the tip of my finger into the cool water and touch it to your burning tonge.
See you later alligator...........
So much for Romney & his 'Greedy Teacher' Mumblings.
Obviously not a union teacher!!
The graduates of these Medical Assistant programs scare me. I have been to clinics for yearly physicals for my OSHA certification where the people doing the tests (taking blood, EKG, hearing tests) are graduates of schools like this one. Scary. I'm just saying.
Agreed, these 8 week wonders are dangerous. I wouldn't let them touch a member of my family. The only reason the MD's even use them is that they get paid 1/3 the wages of a nurse and the Doctor's wife wants a new Lexus.
The article said 8 weeks (160 hrs) of SERVICE it did not say the course was 8 weeks. Read carefully.
Not much different than an Army medic.
CA dude, you couldn't be more incorrect. Army medics start IVs and are trained to insert things like chest tubes. They are highly trained and skilled and aren't "trained" in just 8 weeks by fly-by-night private colleges. I found an MA practicing medical triage at an urgent care center telling a patient they couldn't see a doc because they didn't handle that type of medical issue. Of course, they did actually handle it. It takes an RN to assess, LPN cannot assess much less MA's. But they do it all the time. To your family...NEVER to mine. The only thing MA's are actually competent to do is maintain records and make appointments. But MD's use them because they are 1/3 the cost of a trained nurse. After all, the doc's wife wants a Lexus.
How do you know where a medical assistant got their training how effective the traing was by simply being a patient? this type of training is certified by the state of it's jurisdiction. Therefore I have serious doubts of your claim.
give me a break. They do not make medical decisions. How are they going to do anything that is going to harm you? I'm a Xray tech who has worked side by side with MAs my entire career. They do not have the power to hurt you. They run diagnostic tests and the doctor interprets the results – Not them. They collect specimens to send to the lab where very qualified lab techs run the tests and send a report to your doctor who then interprets the results. MAs are helpers that are under supervision of a RN or the doctor themself.
I am a retired surgery tech and I could not agree with you more...those MA's are very important people in the medical field. One should not lay blame where it is not justified. They do a necessary job that they are trained for. Nothing more.
"are graduates of schools like this one. Scary. I'm just saying." You are just saying what exactly? You said you've been to clinics and you have seen some medical students. Then what? Did they make a mistake? Was one of the nurses NOT turned on by your Boston charm and tired one liner? Awwww, poor Stevie, he no likey the nurses who didn't give him the time of day...
What this educator is doing should be hailed and simulated elsewhere if possible. Get as many people educated as possible. Maybe even you Steve, or are you only qualified to work construction?
With all respect. My medical assisting program is a well known program in this community. More than 1.000 students had graduated from my program and they are working in Drs offices and clinics in this area for the last 12 years. The Drs choose them over any MA from any other school......we must be doing something right don't you think?
Some of them work at Kaiser, Concentra Urgent Care, Centinela Urgent Care, LA Community, Dr Wu, Dr Hernandez, Dr Rojas, Clinica del Alma, Dr Sedeva, Little Company of Mary, just to name some practices. The Drs are super happy with their performance as medical assistants. In some offices they have three o four medical asisstants from my program!!!!
Medical Assisting program cost about $ 10, 15, 20, to 25 thousand dollars. My students paid $1,600 and some of them still haven't pay the fees. Centinela Valley School District canced the program instead of being creative and raise the fee a little and keep the program going. They did not want to do that. I can tell you that you should not be worry or scared because my students are more than prepared to perform basic duties as medical assistants. This is a entry level training! Before they are hired they do 160 hrs. externship. 'THE PATIENT DON'T CARE HOW MUCH YOU KNOW , AS LONG AS THEY KNOW HOW MUCH YOU CARE" , the skills they learned in the classroom will get better and better with practice like any other trade. The MDs do not see Pts by them self until they have practice and gain experience. The surgeons do not perform surgery by them selfs until......they master the skills!!!.....this is a medical assisting training the students do not perform brain surgery I can tell you that much but, what they do they do it right
I am a simple women trying to do the best that I can to help the people in my community to get a trade, to get a job and by that, they can improve their life and the life of their families...........that is all.
It's a shame you have to defend your heroic actions to people with small minds and hard hearts. You deserve not only your business license, but a key to the city for your efforts. Let me give you comfort. The Messiah was a radical JEWISH rabbi who stood up to the Pharisees (the Jewish leaders of that time) and suffered for all of us. Our suffering is infinitesimal compared to His. You gave the most precious gift of all to your students–and that was HOPE for a better life. Don't ever give up.
Patients do care what you know. When I choose a doctor, I care about what school he came from, that is the basic. The rest I will judge after my first visit. Caring for a patient is not enough to save a patient. Caring and knowledge must come hand in hand. Good intentions without knowledge can also be deadly.
I applaud you Christina for your personal sacrifices and determination to allow these students to learn. Those who criticize do not understand what the educational system has been reduced to in California. I hope Prop 30 will pass and bring back your class so that you can teach it without fear. Thank you for your heroic efforts! Your passion is amazing!! GOOD LUCK!!!
I admire you for you standing up and making a difference in this world. We need more people with you "guts" to take on the ignorance that seems to surround us. Keep up the good work.
THANK YOU for your unselfish contribution to these young lives! The world is a better place because of you.
ANNO, just which medical schools do you deem "good enough" for your precious body? The best doctors I have been to graduated from small medical colleges rather than the prestigious degree mills.
So, you asked them all for their references before you let them examine you? BS. You have no idea of their qualifications.
Good for her! She must be a kind person to do something like that. The government should not have shut her school down.
I agree. She IS a wonderful person.
I just think ALL people should follow the same laws.
This made me cry...namaste.
this story says a lot about the kind of people that dedicate their lives to educating others; let's stop beating them up and find a way to help them do what they were born to do. they need & deserve our support.
If this woman does not receive full funding the State of California should not be allowed to stay in the Union...
Did you read the article? Seems like you didn't. Troll.
It's more likely that local code enforcement, the California Franchise Tax Board and the IRS will pay her a visit.
Bravo to Ms. Chiappe! She is clearly a decent and honorable person. I hope that when she considers the sacrifices she and her family have made, that she will be reminded of the lasting impact she has had on all those lives. Being a blessing to others has it's own way of coming back around full circle..
She truly is a very 'special' person, but, if she's counting on Jerry Brown or the legislature to give her money, she has to realize...... all money goes to the UNIONS!
That's chump change compared to the money the super rich have!
She should try renting space at a local school. The parking will be sufficient and she can provide a mailing address so as to not confuse her business with the actual school in the location.
Officially, the Duperintendent – Jose Fernandez’s salary is set at nearly $199,000, plus his annual longevity bonus adds about $18,000 to that total. With stipends, his yearly total is $241,000. He oversees 1,2,3 High Schools. He deserves every penny...NOT!
My prior post somehow didn't make it.
Regarding this woman, she is a symbol of initiative, ingenuity, dedication, integrity, and perseverance. Things that America used to stand for.
I've seen several references to Props 30 and 38. Bottom line, don't vote for them! The money won't go for education!
The same thing was pitched for legalizing gambling back in the 90's. Separate accounting for the revenues to got strictly for education. It passed. Gov. Pete Wilson, THE DAY AFTER IT PASSED, by executive order, CHANGED THE ACCOUNTING TO GO TO THE GENERAL FUND!
These prop's will be no different. The money will go to the general fund, not education.
You got it Don, "used" to. Hope this works out.
EXACTLY!! When debating as to how to vote on any of these Propositions, L:OOK at the bottom of the TV ads as to WHO is paying for the ad! Prop. 32, paid for by SEIU, CTA, etc. Go to Howard Jarvis's site & read his voting guide lines. He's the ONE person who stands up for the voters!
Don, you speak the truth. California has some of the highest state income taxes, especially at the higher levels, we have the highest sales tax, and although property tax rates are low and the growth rates are capped, those who bought recently get gouged anyway because property prices are through the roof. 1% on a $500,000 home (which is a 2 bdrm condo where I live) is $5,000 per year. The issue for California isn't lack of revenue – its Sacrementos uncontrolled nature to want to spend on all kinds of programs that benefit very specific groups and advance the liberal idea of equality – meaning lets make it equally crappy for everyone. I'm sure I had some of you nodding til I droppde the L-bomb, but its true. Look at where the money goes. Schools are suffering and we're handling out billions in green energy subsidies for people buying electric cars and solar panels. When was the last time you saw a poor person buy a $60,000 eletric car, or even middle class?
The priorities are all out of whack. I'm voting no on 39 as well! It's a good idea – closing a loophole to make it so that out-of-state companies don't get to choose from multiple accounting methods to do their taxes. BUT, of the $1 Billion they estimate they'll get each year, they want to also put in the law to commit to spending $550 Million on green energy projects, which is why "green energy construction" coalitions are dumping money into the yes on 39 campaign.
I say vote no and have them bring it back in the next election cycle without the 2.5 Billion giveaway over 5 years to the green energy companies.
You think that $5,000 on a 500,000 house in CA is expensive in taxes??? HAHAHAHAHA. AZ also only allows about 1% in property taxes too. My brother, and the rest of my family lives there. About 10 years ago he tried to move to TX "because real property is soooooo cheap" that he could sell his home in AZ and pay cash and not have a mortgage payment in TX (AZ property in some communities is just as expensive as CA). They were looking at $450-$500,000 homes. The Realtor heard him and his wife discussing that concept and she interrupted..."oh, no, don't think like that, even if you pay cash you'll always have a "mortgage" payment...you'll just be paying TX instead." Property tax in TX is so high that they would have been paying $1,500 a MONTH or more depending on the town they lived in and there is no cap on how much or how often the local governments can raise property tax. TX property tax is what CA would have been without Prop 13.
So, TX can claim they have low taxes, but its a lie. They tax the heck out of property owners. That is why land is so cheap in TX, no one can afford to pay for expensive land because the taxes are out of this world.
I live in Texas ...3 BR 2BA home on 1.3 acres .....the house and land are valued at 190K....I pay $2500 a year in taxes.
This same house would probably be sold for 900,000 in CA.....we bought it for 150,000 in 2004. It is located in a quiet subdivision where deer come to our doorstep to eat out of our hands....this is considered a very nice home in a very nice area.
I would love to live in California....it is so beautiful. But the homes are just way too costly.
@Elsie You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Property tax IS regulated and they can't simply raise it to whatever they wish on a whim. There are caps and regulations on property tax increases per year. I live in AUSTIN, Tx., own a 3,800 sq/ft. on a 1/2 acre lot and pay an average of $3,400 per year in taxes. And as a matter of fact, this year evaluated LOWER than last year. You may want to actually do some research before spouting off like an uneducated buffoon.
@Elsie – and while you're at it... PLEASE oh PLEASE show me in any of the county assessor's records (which are available on-line) ANYONE in Texas who pays $18k in property tax per year (in reference to your ridiculous $1,500 per month statement).
I live in TX and own a nice brick home on 3 acres in a nice subdivision and pay $1800 a year in property tax!!!! That is bs that someone is paying close to that per month! you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
I find it pathetic that one area where the jobs are available and growing school administrators and whomever cut programs that make a difference for future jobs. Where's the common sense today?
I also think this is horrible that people have to secretly get educated just because of politics. The government needs to understand that we need jobs, education, and so much more and not more electronics and other stupid things. :(
The answer is simple. Don't vote for any Republican.
Sorry Tom, but the reason the workers paradise of California is broke is because the democrats have a total lock on the state. Nice try though.
This is a democratic state and democratic city – do you even think before you respond? There is plenty of money for this program they just don't know how to manage it. This lady is a succes story based on individual iniative overcoming government bureaucracy.
Tom – you are what is wrong with our political system. You want to blame the Republicans because you've been brainwashed to think they are evil and always wrong. California has been nearly locked down by the Dems for decades. a few Republican governors running moderate agendas with-left leaning democrat controlled legislature for as long as many of us can remember, and somehow its the Republicans we need to keep from office? Jerry Brown was the one who unionized state works decades ago and opened the floodgates for more and more money to get siphoned for union benefits at the expense of everyone else – now he just had to run for re-election to finish the job of destroying the state. But you're right, its the republicans that are ruining everything everywhere. That's why the job markets are so crappy in Texes and North Dakota.
To Barada: Didn't you notice, Tom H – Seattle's signature?? Seattle is just as Liberal, Democratic, Socialist, as California's Sacramento!
Your Democrats have bankrupt your state. Businesses are leaving your state on a daily basis.
Doesn't make much sense, because the Democrats are responsible for this one.
Dude-Democrates have controlled California for over 30 years. Wake up!
I think this is a great thing: Believing in giving kids the education they need and deserve. :)
Funny that all the blame of the government is listed below. however, if you think about the root cause of this problem, it was not government. it was the fact that the anti-government anti-tax payers refuse to pay a small amount of taxes to save this schools funding for this program. Romney will cut taxes = less school funding = less teachers and classes = less jobs and education = stupid voters = more republican votes.
You and reality don't like each other much, do you?
I can't see why you'd say that, unless you're an ignorant TeaBagger who can't understand that he's right.
When you look in a mirror, can you see the nose on your face?
Funny that all the blame of the government is listed below. however, if you think about the root cause of this problem, it was not government. it was the fact that the anti-government anti-tax payers refuse to pay a small amount of taxes to save this schools funding for this program. Romney will cut taxes = less school funding = less teachers and classes = less jobs and education = stupid voters = more republican votes.
Balls; let me clarify few things. Its not the citizen who does not want to pay the taxes. Its the corruption of the goverment officials and the union that causes this problem. California is the highest in taxes. Governor Brown cant do anything because he owes a lot to the union. Also, if we stop the welfare to illegal aliens whose taking advantage of the system. Then this shouldnt happen. Prop 30 will go down because the tax that they are requesting will be just use to fund state budget.
Alden, Brown cant get anything done not because he is in the pockets of unions. He is pro-union, but he has cut from EVERYTHING to try to get to a balanced budget. A LOT from education just like this story illustrates. How does that equate with your statement exactly? The unions are supposedly stopping him from making cuts according to you, but he actually DID make cuts to union jobs. California government is broken – its the only state that has its ridiculous requirements to get anything passed. Brown was extrememly close to getting a bipartisan budget passed (increased revenue plus MAJOR cuts), and he had republicans on board until Grover Norquist came to town and basically told all the republicans they would not get reelected if they passed it, because the Republican Party would not support them.
So now, Brown put it on the ballot for the voters to decide. Putting it all on the shoulders of Brown is ridiculous.
So our best solutions require throwing the baby out with the bathwater?
Not exactly. Measured as a proportion of income, California's overall tax burden is about 16 out of the 50 states. While the sales tax rate is high, fewer items than in other states are subject to the sales tax, and unlike other states labor and services are not subject to sales taxes. The overall burden of sales taxes is comparatively low. Property taxes for long term property owners (which includes most business properties, apartment complexes, golf courses and amusement parks) are lower than the national average. It only bites to be a new property owner, but as time goes on your property taxes do not rise with your rising income. Income taxes for those with incomes above the median are above average for the US, but for those with incomes below the median income taxes are lower than average.
In terms overall tax burden, taxes from all sources, California's tax burden is less than 1% above the national average. The actual difference between the median and average in the US is very small indeed. We are talking less than 1%.
Meh – Brown has cut jobs from the unions where possible, but that isn't the problem – the problem is the per employee cost, including pensions. The state overpromised on the pensions during the good times, and the unions won't concede on benefits, only on the state cutting the most junior teachers, so instead of losing 1 ineffective teacher near retirement we have to lose 2 young energized young teachers. Seniority comes with some benefits as an instructor, but not all of the old teachers are in that boat. And the short sighted unions are creating all kinds of structural problems for the future, but they don't care, because they care only about making those at the top of the current heap as much money as possible, and if the wheels fall off in a decade, oh well – its someone else's problem.
Example: a police officer is paid $28 per hour, starting salary. On his paycheck, his benefit payments are detailed giving him an additional $32 per hour in benefits. That is why California is broke. Way too many public employees, current and retired living well into their 90's. I'm not suggesting that we cut police; i am suggesting that the benefits become aligned with the private sector and that employee contributions are made by public employees.
Placing the root problem on anti-government anti-taxers ignores the fact that individuals overcame the "problem" of no government funding and accomplished their goals through individual effort. Private enterprise rules!
This was an outstanding story, but it was certainly no solution. Ms.Chiappe (and her family) chose to do this good deed, realizing that it was coming with a steep financial sacrifice. They gave up their home for pete's sake. Would you have been willing to do the same? I don't know you, so I won't judge you. However, I'll just say that the vast, vast majority of people would not.
McGhee, you idiot, there is no need to politicize everything. This has nothing to do with Democrats vs. Republicans. But since you seem to have extra money, perhaps you can pay my property taxes, which currently amount to over $11,000/year. No, I'm not rich or living in a castle, the place is ranch style 60 years old. But the state of California taxes me that much because I bought my house 2 years ago, versus my neighbor who moved in 20 years ago and only pays $2400/year.
Gary, your property tax is just ridiculous. The problem is that CA has the tax money but they are not using it properly. They need to stop giving free tuitioin and other benefits to illegal immigrants. That would be a start.
In California property taxes are about 1.05% of assessed value when new and rise no more than 2% per year as property vaules rise. Since 2008 property values have fallen and my own home has been reassesd down twice in that time, lowering my property taxes each time.
For someone to pay $11,000 per year means their property is valued in excess of $1 million. The owner of such a property has no room to whine. But in California, and the US as a whole, we find it is the wealthiest among us doing the most crying about taxes and spending, while actual revenues fall as incomes, property values and sales decline. Take what they say with a big grain of salt.
Gary, the reason you pay so much more property tax than your neighbor is because of Prop 13 which was created by the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Assn. Your property tax is based on now much you paid for your house, not what it's worth now. People who have had their giant estates for decades pay less than you and I do. That is the same group that is against Props 30 and 38 and behind Prop 32.
Cheese Wonton – where I live a $1 Million home is maybe a 4/2 with ~1600 sqft if its a house and at least 20 years old, or prob a 3/3 2000 sqft if its a townhome, built within the last 10. The people who live in these places either have to rent out rooms to afford the mortgage, or have two people working, likely both professionals, and sure $200,000 sounds like a lot of income until you look at how much is left after a $50,000+ mortgage, taxes, high gasoline and tax costs, etc. Think we should rent instead? Rent for such properties I described is at least $3,000 per month or ~$35k annually. I'm sorry, but the property tax system is wonked here. And further, you argue that property gets assessed down – well, it depends in which market you are talking about. More importantly, care to adress the fundamental issue that neighbors in identical homes are paying such different amount in tax (11k vs 2.5k)?
Also in CA----Not true. The sales price is not what you pay taxes on real property. It is 100% based on the assessed value only. Ask the assessors office or any Realtor.
CA Prop 13 is a Godsend. My retired neighbors (who pay far less property taxes than I do) certainly cannot afford, on their meager fixed income, to pay $11,000 taxes a year on a home they bought over 40 years ago. I bought my house 15 years ago – even if the economic crisis hadn't cut my income drastically, with the insane rise in local property values over the ensuing years I would never be able to afford to buy in my town today. Yet some idiots think that both I and my elderly neighbors should be forced out of our homes because it is supposedly "unfair" that we pay less taxes than the guy on the other side who bought his now-insanely-high-priced similar-sized house last month? Why should we be punished because our homes have appreciated to a paper value we can't ever afford to buy? Demanding we pay $11,000 a year in taxes would only be a nasty attempt to force us out so some wealthy local realtor could get even more rich and some high-powered executive manager person could acquire my house and kick my kids out of the excellent local public school – just another "punishment" for the "crime" of being non-wealthy. "Go away – it's our town now, we don't want you pesky middle-class in it anymore." My kids go to school here, my job is here, I am active in the community; someday my house may be my retirement income (since the economy destroyed my retirement investments) but I have no desire to move.
So when you think about it, youre complaining about the fact that funds were cut. But miraculously 16 of the students came up with $1600 eash.. Now... I wonder how that happened? Could it be that they became DETERMINED?
The article stated that they came up with the money "as they could", in payments so to speak. Contributed as they were able to. What is it? So concerned someone might put a finger on your pile of money? I'm disgusted with the hostility I see for people who don't have resources and are trying to educate themselves. Always being stuck in the stereotype of the wily, grasping poor person who refuses an honest days labor. Like the Regan invention of the "welfare Mom", propaganda in action!
"Welfare is for losers"??? What a cruel, hateful thing to say, much less identify yourself with. What a tragic time we find ourselves living in, when selfishness, greed, avarice, and cruelty are considered commendable. Your parents raised you better than this. Also, just bear in mind that none of us are beyond the reach of misfortune, and that one day, you might find yourself choking on those words.
Maybe if the school districts didn't have to spend so much money on teaching illegal aliens English as a Second Language, they would have more money for programs like this. By the way, California had a surplus until Gray Davis (Democrat) took office. Definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. Catch a clue California - your continuing to vote for Democrats to run the state into the ground is not working!!!
Thank you! We have to realize that all the services we enjoy (paved roads, modern schools, emergency services, a public education, etc...) are funded by taxes. The idea that we can cut taxes over and over again is ridiculous! I'm not anywhere close to being a "wealthy" person (I'm definitely the 99%) and I'm proud to be able to pay taxes. I don't have children but I'm glad to pay taxes to fund schools I attended. There comes a point where we can't cut anymore and programs for those truly in need are going to be cut. Social programs make a HUGE difference to those who can't afford the advantages enjoyed by the wealthier members of our society. So, I am glad to pay my taxes and I don't look for loopholes in the tax code. We have to have a reasonable tax code, however. When did paying taxes become such a dirty thing? We are supporting our own society and are giving a hand up to those who can't help themselves. I am afraid that people are going to vote for tax cuts and spending cuts and then realize they've cut off their noses to spite their faces. It's going to take time to get out of this mess–but it took 8 years to get into it.
Californians are some of the most heavily taxed people in the country. The fact that the state has been controlled by Democrats for 30 years or more means that most of the problems are from the liberal policies (like giving welfare and free everything to illegals). There was a report recently that said 6 LA area hospitals had to close down because the cost of mandatory free healthcare to illegals had made it impossible for them to stay open. Translate that to schools who are allocated funds based on the number of students. With the large number of illegals NOT paying taxes, where does the money come from?
Here is a great website for helping make dreams come true. http://www.indiegogo.com I can't think of a better fit than your needs and the services of the site that allow people to donate to worthy causes. Cheers, Tony
She should set up an account at: http://www.kickstarter.com, that way people can contribute to her new school.
This is one of the few things I would contribute to if it were on kickstarter.
"Business licenses" are BS revenue-generating schemes enforced by City governments. Move outside any city's jurisdiction to the county and in many cases you no longer need a business license.
also necessary to prevent crooks and scam artists/. Your anti government ideology is clouding rational judgement. i suggest you stop putting your stupid partisan politics ahead of common sense. (btw...are you wearing your tinfoil hat today?)
You bring up a good point...if only Bernie Madoff and Kenneth Lay had had business licenses for their companies...oh wait. In most cities, you just pay your $50 a year (or whatever the fee is) and get your license, no questions asked. In some jurisdictions, as in this case, they give you grief over petty matters such as number of parking spaces, even though you may have met all rigorous state regulations for your profession.
Since when has a business license stopped anyone from being a crook? Every rip-off company in the city has a license.
Important point. Doubt it's the same thing, but the article states. "Chiappe successfully registered her not-for-profit school, South Bay Careers, with the state of California and Los Angeles County."
Correct kk, not the same. In fact registering with the state, in most states, is nothing more than a formality. LOTS of fly-by-night schools are registered with the state and still hose over the students.
However, in this specific case the students were able to pass the exam to obtain their Medical Assistant license which is the whole purpose of the classes. The only issue that I could see occurring due to a lack of accreditation is that if a student wanted to transfer to a different school, then the new school is under no obligation to accept the course work from South Bay Careers. Also, regional accreditation does NOT mean that you are receiving a good education. Regional Accreditation is yet another racket.
Yes, the important part is that they are able to pass their licensing exam.
Cristina Chiappe is simply amazing.
okay, Repbulicans say NO MORE FUNIDING for schools, so a person pays out of pocket, the students pay out of pocket. NO ONE is getting wealthy off of this (which I am sure upsets the Capitalist Republicans) but now you gripe because they tried to get a license but for a lack of parking spaces (something that has NOTHING to do with the education in the school) and when they did not are still succeeding. Sounds more like you want them to fail rather than pull themselves up by "their own bootstraps" that Republicans are always yapping about. You all scream personal accountablity and when it happens, you gripe cause it did. Ridiculous.
Jokes on you. This was in California, and you can pretty much guarantee the elected officials aren't gonna be Republican.
Ironically, the thing that kept her from opening her own school legally was some BS regulation, and I'll bet you that was Democrats, too. Last I checked, the GOP is against additional burdensome regulations that hurt small businesses.
But, FYI, the GOP isn't against school funding. They are against additional school funding when every extra dollar schools get seems to lower the educational results for their students. More money has not equaled better outcomes, so only a fool thinks more money is the answer.
But hey, keep spouting your ignorant nonsense, it's obvious you went to a well funded school since you know nothing.
South Bay?? Almost certainly Republican.. Ben, California has both Republican and Democratic areas. And yes the GOP is against Education, or at least spending ay money on it. Look at GOP run states. Bottom in school funding and bottom in educational attainments. Blue states spend bundles on education. My sate spends almost twice what California spends and the results are outstanding, high graduation rates and high test scores.. Back when California actually spent money on schools the California schools were #1 in the nation. Now few schools have libraries, almost no schools issue textbooks and class sizes have almost doubled and California is near the bottom in bost funding and in outcome. In Califnrnia it is clear what is more important for the taxpayers education for their kids or a new toy. Californians vote or the new toy every time.
Ben, local governments can be republican in California. See Orange county.
Um, Angela, the Democrats have controlled Califonia's legislature (and school funding) for more than 2 decades.
School funding for the entire nation is a joke and needs a complete overhaul. It's ludicrous to assume that the majority of the expenses should be carried by property owners. It creates natural inequities as those with the higher priced real estate get the better schools and educations. How about a system that every citizen has to pay into, like a sales tax? Spread the load across all the people and create a system to distribute them based on population concentrations. But equal with resources needed so all of our children have an equal chance.
Angela, I find it interesting that Orange County, the most heavily Republican county in California, was the first one to declare bankruptcy!
um... this is a California State... and it seems to me that the capitalist way is working... even if it is at zero profit... Without the govt, unions, etc – education still finds a way.... right?
so we should have all out teachers struggle and work for free? You know, slavery worked great too for some...
Here is a news flash for you doit....! Kalifornia is ran by the komrade dumbocrap party. Both the state legislature AND the executive branch (governor) are dumbocrap controlled. Now you were out gassing what?
I'm glad that we don't have to stoop to namecalling around here in this debate. The move toward uncivil ad hominem would certainly be an indicator that the attacker cannot back up vitriol with substance.
Go back to FOX News. Life there is sufficiently simple – even for you.
Actually this is California so the cuts are being done by Democrats who realize that previous state Democrats have run their State budget into a brick wall through overspending. The real issue is that they couldn't get a business license because of overregulation by their city government. You can expect the city government to be Democrats as well. I have a feeling that she will be moving her business to a new city where the city government takes a less abusive approach.
Its your liberal principals in action that demand so much REGULATION.. you got some of your own medicine.. GOPers have demanded less regulation for decades.. LIBS refuse, now their own get hurt and you want to blame conservatives.. HYPOCRITES
Here are the top 5 universities in the US in order of their ranking:
3.Sarah Palin University
5. Columbia University
OK. I know what all of you are thinking. How did Yale make that list?
So do these credit hours count?
Undoubtedly no. Most likely they will take a final exam that is also the state certification exam. Many of these types of continuing education or workforce classes operate outside of the Carnegie credit hour system.
Whether or not the credit hours "count" would only be an issue if the student were to transfer. The goal for a profession such as Medical Assistant is the State issued license. So long as the students can pass the test for the license and get the license, then it was money well invested.
California does not have a state test or even a certification requirement for medical assistants. The course certificate and intership help make the employee more of a desirable candidate. As someone else mentioned credit hours transferability is only a concern if applying to another school and then it's up the school to accept them.
Acreditation is another story – an acredited school has been inspected by an state or national acrediting agency and has proven to meet some stringent requirements to include it's policies, curiculum, enrollment proceedures and success rates. (course completion / placement rates)
BS. There are many diploma mills that are accredited. All they have to do is pay the fees.
It doesn't matter if it gets you a job in the field you want to work in. Also, many accredited colleges accept passing the state mandated exams as proof of competency and allow you to bypass many courses.
I wish there were a link to help Diana with this.
CNN, can you make this happen?
My user name came through as something...odd. Sorry if that looks like spam, but it isn't. I'd genuinely like to send a little financial help.
Considering that she is knowingly operating a business without a lic. and most likely not paying the appropriate taxes on revenue from her business I would say it's gonna be a no. Maybe we should start a legal aid fund for when they track her down so the city, county , state doesn't fine her into poverty...
It was set up as a non-profit, which means no taxes. Why don't you stop throwing out accusations without even reading the article. She would be required to pay personal income on whatever she paid herself as a salary, but it doesn't sound like that happened.
CNN can throw any election or cause. ;)
And Fox can un-educate people.
Too much lip service here with no action. The question is...how can we help with funding to help her with the cost of licensing?
Congrats & Best of Luck. True American spirit.
I trust Calif. conservaties & liberals r aware of your story n put money n their influence to work 4 u. while i agree the law is the law, laws without heart are bad laws. Congrats all the way from Puerto rico
If we all believe a law is a law, and MUST be enforced, throw out the Illegal immigrants first.
I don't know about a law being a law, but if ignorance is bliss you must be wonderfully happy!
I like pancakes. Pancakes are tasty. Yum.
Mmmmm... pancakes. Syrup. Butter. Lots of butter. Tons of butter. And greasy bacon, too. With lots of extra grease.
Greasy gravy all over
I like bacon. EVERYTHING is better with bacon!
Really is sad these state legislators think it's somehow OK to strip money from education.... the future of this nation. And yet they gladly give subsidies to big biz. Pathetic.
What's worse are those small business owners that dont pay their business lic. setup fees or the appropriate state taxes because they operate without a lic.... oh wait that's what THIS lady is doing.
The reason they cut clesses like this is the high pay and benefits the union backed teachers and staff demand and get because of unions paying off people in Sacremento. 80% of the school budget in CA goes to pay and benefits, including pensions. You can't demend more, more, more without someone else having to suffer.
studies show those with the lowest education are the most likely to end up in jail, so while we will cut back on education now we will spend on jails in the future- get your private jail stocks now.
Why are the best funded educational systems the worst performing ie D.C.?
Its amazing that they came up with the funds themselves, isnt it.
YES on California Proposition 30
Feds, states, counties and cities all want to add new taxes.....
You are SO misguided. California teachers are among the highest paid in the USA, but their students score in the bottom 3 in core competancy. Over 80% of all money in the education budget goes toward salaries and benefits. Teachers can retire in their early 50s with up to 100% pensions in many districts with 100% healthcare coverage for life TOO. The benefits funds are running dry throughout the state, so the legilature passed a bill putting a gun to the heads of our kids, basically "if you don't pass prop 30, we'll kill your childrens' education", and people like you are ready to CAVE!
VOTE NO on props 30 and 38, and vote YES on 32. Tell the legislature to FIX THE REAL PROBLEMS and stop paying state employees insane compensation, while telling the unions to stop collectiong tax dollars to bribe elected officials. Don't let corrupt unions and politicians blackmail you; just say no. We can fix California if you take these stands.
Don't be so jealous! Go back to college, get a teaching degree, get a job with a school system and cash in! If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!
You are exactly right! Problem is for some reason people believe what they see on the commercials when told "it's all for the children"
All of these stats are completely not true. did you just make these up? please show your source because all other sources show differently.
AMEN..vote NO to prop 30. To stop the loopholes that the state could use this taxes to fund and continue their overspending to the UNIONS.
No matter what you say, teaching is a GIFT. Most of them have Masters Degrees in education and in their disciplines. Many of them have multiple core degrees. All of them have to attend continuing education courses AT THEIR EXPENSE. Most of them work WELL OVER 10 hours a day. All the personel money they put into their classes to make up for lack of budgets. They have to put up with all the spoied brats, children from abusive families, children of drug abusers, children from broken homes, children coming to school not having anything to eat, children wanna-be gang bangers, etc. It would make you cry to see what teachers have to put up with and how much of themselves they give every day! All this for $40k a year?
While I applaud the efforts, it doesn't seem like the program is accredited. Not only are the credits "worthless", but you can't get federal financial aid for nonaccredited programs which means the students racked up additional debt. Even if the original school reinstates the program, it's unlikely the credits would be valid.
Meanwhile, there are literally thousands of Medical Assistant programs at either an Associate or Certification level that are accredited.
But it also said this > "She also placed them into externships with physician offices in the South Bay community".
So even if you deem it worthless, it ended up getting them into working in the field, even if it is as an intern. I would guess that these students had time tables set and might of not been able to enter a new school or maybe not find one local to them. They made decisions and it does not sound as if she's misleading the.
Well, she didn't tell them she didn't have a license until after the graduation ceremony. Also, externships are generally unpaid positions that go to small businesses and definitely do not guarantee employment.
The villian in this story... every step of the way... is Government.
Not really, schools can lose accreditation by continually losing audit points. This can range from the curriculum not being up to par to technology or even methods by which the school does business that is auditable. It was not specific but my guess this is the only viable reason of why a school would shut down so suddenly that even the students and instructors are not - in the know.
Who accredited Socrates, the government? Oh, that's right, the government killed him.
But would you hire someone out of this woman's program? I wouldn't. The standard for medical assistants is low enough as it s.
It depends, because as it said they are being placed into "externships with physician offices in the community". If she could prove she was keeping to the core curriculum and that she was in the middle of gaining accreditation, then this might be a deciding factor.
Also, just because someone attends a school and gets acceditation or a degree does not mean the are qualifie for a position, because most simply have no hands-on experience doing that specific job. Since this is part of what she is doing for these students, I'd say that's probably a step above > just having a piece of paper to wave at me.
What that teacher did for her students was a very wonderful thing, and they ought to grateful to her for doing it.
I, myself, am in the medical field and studying the Administrative and Electronic Records part of it, and I have been so thankful for the teachers that I have had and met along the way. There are some really special people out there that really want to help students succeed in life.
I have been a teacher for over 20 years and a union member. In my district the union membership voted to take a 10% pay cut rather than reduce any educational programs. This woman needs to be commended for her efforts. Her sacrifice is large but not unheard of. I know teachers that buy their students clothes. I know teachers that feed their students and I know teachers that pick up students and take them to school in the morning. I know them because they are in my district and in my school.
Countless studies have shown that there is a higher incidence of incest and child molestation among southern, white evangelical families than in any other group that participated in the study. Experts agree that this type of deviant behavior is generally a result of living in close quarters, such as trailer parks. Anyone requiring further proof only has to take a casual drive south of the Mason-Dixon line where you will encounter toothless inbreds wherever you travel. In fact, historians have long theorized that the reason the south lost the Civil War is because of the high number of mentally challenged soldiers in the army, a direct result of generations of inbreeding.
Studies also show that 1 out of every 2000 individuals are born with brain damage. You my friend are that one!
What kind of inbred a***hole are you anyway......post your garbage elsewhere
Hmmm.... admit it. You can't actually type. You just ran an app to produce that comment for the wrong article, right?
Cite your references > or you lose credibility points....
One of the more extensive of these studies was conducted by the Sociology Dept. at prestigous Sarah Palin University.
You obviously have never been to PA, IN, or OH.
Methinks you enjoy your "Deliverance" Special Edition Blu-Ray boxed set a tad too much. Perhaps you should realize that your familial yearnings are a little too strong and your attempt to ascribe your base impulses to people who live far, far, away from you is something psychiatrists would call "Denial?" Go get the help you need.
I saw this same post on another unrelated article. Just ignore this person.
$1600 per student sounds like a pretty cheap price. I wonder how much they were paying at the original school.
And the national average is almost $11K per student per year for public K-12. And people wonder why there is doubt we are getting what we pay for.
A donation project can be created to help this wonderful woman and her cause. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects?filter_category=Education Hopefully she reads the comments and does this, or through some other means, creates a venue to allow donations to be made to her wonderful efforts.
" If one of the two state education tax initiatives are approved in the November election, the board will address the possibility of bringing it back."
This implies that if either one of the two state education tax initiatives passes, then the board will consider bringing the class back. But that's not true; only Prop 30 will provided funding to secondary schools like this. The other one, Prop 38, provides funding only for K-12.
Prop 30 does not say anything about how the money can be used. Here in good ol' California it will be used to fund some stupid way left liberal program or to help reduce the teachers union pension fund current short fall. Never vote more taxes. Make the government come up with a budget that works with the taxes that will be collected. California could save $6 billion dollars a year just by not funding all of the illegal immigrant programs they currently do. Quite threatening Education and Law enforcement with cuts that amount pennies and cut aid to illegal aliens.
...soon to be President Romney ... first step to balance the budget ... please shut down to 100% the Dept of Education ... delegate to the states and have 50 competing Dept of Educations and see who does the best.
Dream on Romneynumbnuts........LMAO ..........no way Jose
It can be like 7-11 franchise!
See who does the best after how much time, and measured exactly how? 50 different ways? And like GA is gonna care what CA does?
Brilliant – we can do the same for all the other federal departments. Let's eliminate Department of Defense as well, and let 50 individual State National Guard provide for the common defense. Brilliant! More! More! Let's eliminate the Department of Commerce and let 50 individual State Departments of Commerce provide the same service. Utter Brilliance! More! More! Let's eliminate the Office of the President and let 50 States Governors provide Executive Office services!
More like utter stupidity.
Cristina Chiappe, thank you for your dedication to these young women. You should go here to set up a donation project for your school. I for one would be willing to help out with what I could.
Fire 50% of the administrative staff, 100% of the drones with the Department of education and give parents a HSA program for their kids education to spend on back to school stuff, school lunch money, tuition to private schools, uniforms etc.
Then see how quick public schools will improve.
It is a shame that schooling in the US has started to rot. There are plenty of great teachers, and then there are a much higher number of termites in the system, starting with those who serve at the district boards and of course the ever wonderful union.
Your prediction on the HSA amount would be how much?
it'll just get spent on drugs like all the other assistance.
This lady is a hero.
Sorry, but we spend way too much on education at the moment. I am not blaming the teachers, rather administration and union are doing a terrible job at making progress.
It's makes me sick how much we waste in education.
too much on education? no, there's too much spent on wars, there's never enough spent on education.
You must be Amish... Or maybe a follower of the Taliban. Too much education????
Sorry, I meant that for the other guy.....
and spoken like a true overpaid, underworked teacher.
Then let's take it out on the administrators and the million dollar athletics and alumni facilities rather than the teachers and the students.
Good point.......too much is wasted on sports.
As a coach, let me tell you that many of the students staying in school, would not do so if not for athletics and coaches that care enough to make sure they succeed. I am not saying that every program should not give up their share in these tough times, including athletics, but to make a blanket statement like that is absurd.
Yeah, and the fact that the US ranks 26th in the world for education and 1 out of 5 high school students can't even find Afghanistan on a map of Asia or Washington DC on a world map. Yep, we spend too much on education.
We spend too much on bad teachers we can't get rid of and their pensions.
"1 out of 5 high school students can't even find Afghanistan on a map of Asia".....maybe that's because Afganistan is not in Asia.....just sayin'
Afghanistan is on the continent of Asia.
Education is very high priced...... from the students' side of things! The news has shown students asking..... 'is being saddled with a debt over $100 after college worth it when one cannot find a job? Many large universities charge a great deal but those are private college. How many are State funded? Thing is, in my State, education funding by the State has been cut way back. If students want to go to college they know to work a job, and save early and hope for a scholarship. Otherwise parents pay and they cannot afford it. This is "cost" of education.
I really think too many people today attack first and discuss later. I think it is evident when someone says "too much education?" and calls someone else the Taliban because he/she doesn't agree with them. Stop letting the government divide you. They will tax "for the schools" and spend for the special interest. It is what it is and government is repeating history with the "throw money at it" solutions from 30 years ago. Those of you who want to keep on with the insults rather than discuss and solve problems should keep voting for Obama. Then, when we no longer have the tax revenue and owe way more than we can ever pay, the teachers can sit without what was promised to them (retirement benefits, etc.) just like our disabled, our soldiers, and our seniors. Only through bankruptcy will we the taxpayers get rid of the lousy deals politicians made to keep their jobs and line their pockets and finally silence the talk of "Debt Spending". Then, you can go back tpo hurling insults, but let's make sure they are directed at the politicians, unions and anyone else who took extreme advantage of the taxpayers in the name of "Fairness". Finally, I am sick of anyone being treated any different than I and I do not wanted to be treated any different than any other legal citizen (sure not less than an illegal). Get government out of the way since it is obvious they do not know what they are doing. Get rid of anything with the DOE acronym( Energy, Education, etc.) What a waste.
Apparently you don't realize that the teachers are the union.
I was thinking about my schooling in the 50s and 60s and how much better it was way back then until it dawned on me, it wasn't. I grew up in middle class Long Island in one of the better Districts. We had old worn text books, little supplies (of course back then no computers unlike today). Teachers pay was poor, and outside of a couple of very dedicated professionals (some of whom i was lucky to meet in class), most were young, inexperienced, and did not know a lot more than the pupils (especially when we reached high school). When my daughter went to school (Calabasas California), supplies were not much better but the teachers were a bit more experienced. Maybe there is more administrative waste now.
In thinking over the problem I realize it is way too complex to write a solution on a blog. There are definitely more distractions now so doing 2-3 hours of homework a night is no longer the norm. Making sure students get to class on time every day is no longer a priority. There are dozens, maybe hundreds, of other reasons. Discussion without insults and Obama this and Romney that may lead us to how to fix it.
The mind is the power source of the soul. It can cure us as well as destroy us. Kudos to teachers all over the world who are able to get students(young and old) excited about learning.
Where government failed, private enterprise succeeded. Makes me wonder where else this could/should be done? I'm not calling for mass privatization, just wondering.
Not sure this was a 'could/shouldn't situation- more like a 'had to'.
This story actually has two points. One, a remarkably dedicated person would actually lose money to continue to teach her students. Two, because the teacher had to spend her own money to continue the course it is unlikely that this serves as a model for how we should educate people as it would be hard to find many teachers willing to work for a negative income. One might think doctors would form a school to train the medical assistants whose relative cheap labor they exploit. But no, they are too busy complaining about the taxes they pay and griping about being sued for operating on the wrong leg
Kuddos to this brave educator!
I agree with you on some points, but as a medical assistant, I don't feel like I am exploited or cheap labor. I make a very livable wage. I pull half of the income as a registered nurse, but I also have less responsibility. That said, this instructor is awesome!
Dont take no for an answer, the people taking the class had waited and depend on
this education to make a living. They MADE it happen despite the cut.
All the best and keep up the great work.
Lot of great comments here.....not one that I saw offering to chip in a couple of bucks to help her out. I don't have much but I am willing to send in a donation. She should be congratulated for her efforts.
I'm with you Garth. I wish CNN would have put up sufficient information for us to provide some financial help. A simple PayPal account (or email address) would suffice. Besides the tremendous admiration I have for the teacher for her sacrifice, dedication and integrity, I admire the fact that she wants to continue to do this but only under the law.
Stupid article. Like this lady is the only show in town. This is Los Angeles. There are plenty of other schools and classes. I would be nervous hiring one of her students vs. one that graduates from a REAL school. Give me a break. Don't waste people's time with ridiculous articles.
You seem to be a very jealous and small minded person it must s uc k to be you
You know, every single busines in existence had a "very first day" and a "very first year", and a huge number of them started just like this, with equal parts hope and desperation. Quit being a troll.
It was a good article. Dave is a dumb dumb.
James, do you consider yourself an educated person? For your enlightenment: – Education trains the mind, It provides us with information. It develops good mental habits. Above all it teaches us how think. Knowledge is power. Do you understand the social value of the sacrifices this teacher made for her students? If you have nothing good to say about the story, Please shut your mouth and open your narrow mind.
Actually, these young women sound very dedicated. I, for one, would not mind having them as my caretaker. They were willing to do whatever it took to make this happen. Ms. Chiappe and her students are to be commended!
Yes, Dave. Must suck to be you. This woman deserves a standing ovation.
Spoken like a true "TEA Party" member! :)
Just change the facts a little. Let's suppose funding been reduced and not all of the students who wanted the class been able to get it...or if she dug into her own pocket to get the money for books, equipment or supplies...or tried to raise the money herself. Her biggest enemy would have been the union because her actions would have made the other teachers look bad.
Supporting dedicated teachers who to put the interests of their students first and foremost is not the union way. Public school teachers unions support the worst teachers...not the best.
Great comment. Lots of information. You must either be a Union employee or a teacher in a Union.
No...YOU LIE :P
It only took a few comments to find one that blamed this on unions. I'm willing to bet this woman belongs to the union, and proudly supports it and they her. This is about lack of funding. This is about red tape and bureaucracy and overcoming the odds to achieve a goal. Sixteen more people got the education they needed to get a decent job while one woman sacrificed and didn't get paid to get them there. We should be praising her initiative, celebrating their success, and working toward making education better and more accessible to people instead of carping about unions and allowing governments to waste so much money on death and destruction while they cut back on everything positive they could do instead.
Unions only proudly support themselves. They could care less about teachers or students.
Naomi, teachers ARE the unions. And yes, they do make demands on school districts and communities-to ensure our children are getting the best possible education in a tough economy, rife with spending cuts and budget shortfalls. Or would you rather have sub-par, underpaid teachers with no incentive to stay in the field, run down schools nd no materials with which to teach? This 'Union' scare is a conservative tactic to gut school administrations and state legislatures of political opponents, so they can push through their 'trickle down' economic policies- leaving students
Everythng's political, huh? I feel sorry for your family.
100% correct. No shortage of evidence.
To a union they could care less what type of teacher you are. All they care about are your dues. You must pay your dues. When you do pay your dues they will represent you in a new contact and will increase your dues according to your rise in salary. Do you get the picture yet. Really does not matter if you do as long as you pay your dues.
It's a known fact that people who belong to unions make more money than their non-union couterparts. Paying dues pays off!
It is a shame that our legislators cannot stop wasting money so funds that are needed for education get wasted on pet projects.
republicans will be holding this up as a "Model for the Future of Private Education".
...and rightfully so. "Not enough parking" is how government does it and this teacher ignored that and everyone has a place to park still.
So teachers should work for little or no salary and spend their own money educating your children? These teachers and students wouldn't be in this situation but for politicized spending cuts, meanwhile, your Republican masters lavish the tax revenues 'saved' on the wealthy 'jobs creators'. It's a new form of serfdom. You're welcome to it.
Isn't it? This dedicated teacher is doing an admirable thing!
Sure, she's a job crator. Let's make sure the end of the Bush cuts for $250k+ earners don't get cancelled and hurt this well meaning individual!
I have no idea what you are talking about and either do you. The only job created is her own. I sincerely doubt that she made any money on this, so explain how keeping tax breaks for those making over 250K helps her, or the 95% of small businesses which make less than 250K. Jeez, you can't even keep Fox News talking points straight.
Parts of this story just don't add up. If her license was denied due to a lack of parking, why wouldn't she just go find another location rather than doing this whole thing under the table? When these students graduate, do they have a certificate from an accredited program? I can't imagine her course is accredited if she doesn't even have a business license, not to mention that she would never have gotten approval if her program wasn't ready to go (with books and supplies, etc) on the first day. I'm happy for these ladies and their teacher, but it seems to me that, no matter how much great knowledge they gained, all they have to show for it on paper is a meaningless course completion from an unrecognized school.
She had already paid for the building. She didn't have the funds to just go get another building. Not that hard to figure out when she chose to sell her own house to help fund her school.
Liz, if you reread the story you would find that there were time constraints and a endless search for A, covering local statutes on parking. B, Accreditation from the State of Cal. C, searching for a building. You further opine that the certificate is meaningless, not every course of instruction needs State accreditation. I was hired by a large aerospace firm up your way because they asked my prof if they had anybody ready to leave the campus and go directly to work then later as a contractor to this countries largest defense company based on my gaining a certificate (using a new design tool) from a unacredited course. If something smells fishy it might be your logic.
always someone who brings everyone down and rains on everyone's parade....who cares if it is accredited? they aren't going for degrees they are going to train in order to obtain a job....it is called a technical school.....so liz if you have nothing good to say....then say nothing.
It depends on whether the student is out to gain a piece of paper or to actually learn something. In this case, the instructor had obviously already proven her worth before the state pulled the rug out, and the students were happy to continue to learn from her.
I agree liz, something isn't quite right. THough I do feel happy for those ladies and this is another story.
But for everyone using this as and example for government intrusion keeping small businesses from flourishing.
What if this was some shady person that was just out for the money? And didn't get the proper licenses, but took thier money and then ran when the money ran out? There are reasons for many of the licenses out there. If it went the other way, many of you would be yelling "where were our govenment leaders in all of this.?"
What If.......What IF............What If...................one could play this game to infinity.........There are no what is's here. This was/is a dedicated teacher and smome small minded community declined her a permit for parking...............total bs on their part.
Vote No on Prop 30 & 38.
Your comment has absolutely nothing to do with this story! We get enough political ads. Find someplace else to voice your opinion, which we do not want to see! You are so rude! If you have an opinion about this story, then post it, otherwise leave!
Actually Lou, there is a Proposition 30 and 38 on the ballot in the upcoming election that deals with school funding. So the comments by Jim DOES have to do with the article and is referenced in the final paragraph.
Yes on 30 and 38!! Get educated, support our schools and education!
Cristina Chiappe didn't build that business, the government did with roads and permits.
Ahh look, the people who can't think two steps ahead are posting.
The government helped her get the education that she used to teach the students as well as the education that the students had that helped them to learn in her class. The government pays her husband's salary that allowed her to continue with this work instead of finding a new job. The government made the building codes on the building that she hosted classes in. And yes, she got there on the roads that the government built in a car with safety standards that the government made after doing safety research on government funds. The information that she taught was developed partly in government-funded universities and hospitals. I could go on, really, but if you cared about reality, you wouldn't have made your post.
And it's a not-for-profit school, not a "business," and it's not officially started.
Your partisan nonsense doesn't cut it. Assuming that this is a business that she built, she didn't build it ALONE, which is what Obama ACTUALLY said. You don't get to omit a word so that you can distort what was said and then attack based on that as though it's meaningful.
The only people buying that nonsense are people who believed it going in– people who believe that government provides them nothing and that their success (but not their failure) is 100% their own doing.
If you’ve got a business – you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.
you must really be chapped about wiriting all that drivel and then having someone drive by and throw a POTUS quote out there to erase it all with a few keyboard clicks
As the teacher's memory fades over the great and good things done in her life, the students will remember.
Lots of teachers totally unlike this, but if you should run into one in your lifetime, he/she is the invisible captain and you
a good mate on board, for a long voyage through a good life.
This is just more CNN baloney. If the program were for males it would be labeled discriminatory Also, I see that CNN has adopted the Yahoo model of having its interns comment on stories calling them "heroic" & "brave", while it is nothing of a sort. The only thing this teacher did was conjure up a way to cash in after slogging around on the taxpayer dime for who knows how long.. I don't particular care to hear you from up high on that soapbox. Excuse me while I throw up.
Skynyrt, not one single positive thing did you contribute, not even a single, coherent, auditorial criticism, either. If that is your style in other matters as well, I'd not be surprised if you have no job, or career prospects, or home of your own. Sad, negative waste of energy, dude.
And while you are throwing up, grow up.
Do you practice being a jerk? The purpose of the story was to show how this teacher and these students overcame an obstacle, which is at the core of capitalism. Despite what you may think, this story paints a poor picture of government in the sense that the story depicts an ignorant bureaucracy shutting down a needed class and most likely continuing to fund athletic activities. Bravo to this teacher and these students.
Your response is offensive.
Slogging around on the tax payer dime? Is that what you really think teachers do? Maybe you should educate yourself... oh wait, then you'd become a teacher, and you obviously know how evil and lazy those dang teachers are
You are an idiot.
You obviously did not read or understand the article. The teacher worked without a salary, and sold her house to pay for the expenses – that's no way to "cash in". And nowhere does the article say the course was exclusively for women. Anyway, if the teacher sacrifices and eventually builds a profitable school, then she is a "job creator". Don't you like those?
Congratulations, skynyrt!! You win the biggest P.O.S. award!! Loser.
You are as miserable an excuse for a human being as this teacher is a great example.
You're excused. You're also forgiven for your bitterness and poor judgment.
....another example for why we need to spend more on education.
heres hopeing you choke on that barf
Agreed! Had the genders and races been reversed its a non-story.
I really like that when her family had to decide between their dreams and keeping a house they decided to go with their dreams. In America we see so many people thinking that they can't downsize their expenses so it is wonderful to hear of someone who lived realistically and sacrificed while reaching for their goals. I'm sure her and her husband's faith helped.
That's funny. I don't see her religion or her husband's religion mentioned anywhere in the article.
Apparently, people can't be decent humans and can't make choices that you approve of unless they are religious. I hate to burst your bubble, but plenty of people are decent people without religion and they don't feel the need to assume that others are "like them" in order to be decent.
Your faith is YOUR faith. It has nothing to do with anyone else or anyone else's value. Get over yourself.
Actually she did mention her faith.
Jen L, the article quotes her as saying "God will provide". Read first, then comment. Why can't people be accepting of Christians when they say something religious? We, as Christians, sure are forced to be accepting of everyone else's beliefs. That is why in my child's school, which is overwhelmingly made up of Christian students, they no longer pray and are not allowed to sing Christmas songs in the Christmas program. Because people like you (who make up a very small percentage of the U.S.) demand not to be subjected to anything Christian, while continuing to subject us to your daily crap. Those who demand tolerance seem to be the most intolerant. This nation was founded under God, became great...under God, and thrived...under God. The more we take God out, the worse it gets. In my opinion, those of you who can't tolerate living in the land of our forefather's vision are welcome to relocate.
"Obviously, I don’t have the money to pay, but God will provide. That is my rule.”
Considering the comment that this unselfish educator offered it would seem to me safe to assume that she is in fact religious. Of course you didn't really care what the article said, you just wanted to take an opportunity to reassure yourself that you are a decent person even in the absence of religious convictions.
They should know better than to tell una mujer latina, "No."
That's right! lol
With articles like this one maybe the voting public will understand cutting taxes in some areas is a bad idea. Talk to your state and federal congressmen and find out whether or not they support education through actions.
Why would you infer that from this article? The state cut funding, and people banded together to ensure they could still access the information in the class. Seems pretty win win to me. The state doesn't have to pay for a fringe group, and the members of that group and their supporters can then fund the activity they wanted. You do realize the government is known for waste, right? Who would you rather have controlling the funding for your group, someone who's track record says they'll waste 40% of the money, or people directly involved with the activity who care about its success? Government pulling out funding for things like this is probably the best thing to happen. Did you forget that the government money comes from the people? Take out the middle man and you save a lot of cash.
So is that what the republicans want....for 'others' to work for free, give up their house, and sacrafice their time and money for the benefit of others? Sounds a lot like slavery to me.
Yeah, all except the part were the teacher got screwed out of a salary and her investment in a house. I'm sure people will be lining up in droves to cash in!
A fringe group? Is that what you call anybody who is not a white evangelical Republican?
There's no such thing as a bad tax cut to a Republican. Remember this when you vote next week. If you vote Republican you'll get what you voted for – nothing.
Yeah, just like the Dems have never heard of a tax they didn't like!
With a few less government regulations, maybe she wouldn't need to hold secret classes.
I hate over-regulation myself, but it seemed like parking was the issue here. If you've ever lived adjacent to a commercial district, you'd understand how frustrating it is to find parking for yourself and family/visitors during retail business hours. The parking spaces requirement is generally a good one. She could have probably found an affordable location in a multistory building that would have met then needs of the students and still be compliant. The other thing she could have done: is to underestimate her class size on the application for the city permit.
Actually, what this article tells me is that strict privatization of education can work. For a sum total of $1,600 per student she got the program up and running again. How much was tuition even with state funding? Where did all the extra money go? She had to purchase all the educational materials, all of which the school would have already owned and could spread the investment cost out over years. This article shows me that individuals that work hard and take the risks can do a lot of good and change the way we view education. Incoming Tuition – Cost of Education (including salaries) = 0 This is the best way to provide affordable education to students and control bloated budgets. State funding could then be directed to individuals that need financial aid to pursue degrees to get careers to better themselves and in the end make money and pay taxes that can then help people later on that faced the same situation they were in.
Except that at $1600 per student she had to work without a salary. Would you be prepared to do that? Privatization of education is what gave us universities that very few people can afford to attend. Be careful what you wish for .....
Kevin, is said in the story that the teacher went without salary. She sacrificed whatever she could to get the classes going again. It goes without saying she put in tons of "extra" work on her own time to take care of everything needed. The story has not mentioned whether she is now making a profit. This case is an exception, not the way things ought to be.
Are you proposing that we rely on extraordinary people like this to pop-up everywhere and make the educational system work? All teachers should put their homes for sale, sacrifice everything, and still have the passion to teach? I hope you're willing to do the same (put your money where your keyboard is)???
Apparently, you failed reading comprehension class. She charged $1600 per student but there was a budget gap. She didn't collect a salary and sold their home and rented to close the gap. Would you be willing to do that if the government came in and shut down the company you work for? You'd work for free? I think not – and you'd be bashing the liberal Dems for cutting programs.
Sure it can work if you find a saint to do the work for zero compensation. In case you haven't noticed saints are in short supply so if you think this could work on a large scale you are brain damaged.
To those who think this is a model of privatization of the school system I would ask one question: Would you personally be so willing to work for nothing and to give up your home too? Is THAT what you think privatization of schools should or even will do? Or is THAT only what you think ALL teachers should do?
Now this is a story about a real American hero. Not a sports star or rock star... a woman who will do anything to allow her students to get an education and succeed. Malala in Pakistan, the girl whose life the Taliban tried to take just because she wants an education, is my hero, and now I'm adding Cristina's name to my very short list. As someone on this forum suggested... Cristina, set up a website to take donations. I would contribute. Try Yola.com. You can create a website for free and they have a mechanism fo accepting donations through PayPal. Cristina... thank you for giving more hope that many human beings are kind and courageous.
I'll have to add Cristina Chiappe to short list of outstanding teachers. She is the modern day version of Marva Collins who has been featured a couple of times on 60 Minutes. Marva Collins started her own school in the ghettos of Chicago and her results were nothing short of amazing. It's worth googling Marva Collins to watch the segments. Maybe Christina could benefit from using kickstarter for her initial funding.
incredibly dedicated teacher and students. however, it is truly a sad.... no depressing notion and time that there are so many who claim to be leaders yet place so little priority or interest in educating the next generation and are more interested in maintaining their own wealth and power.
when it comes to pass, everyone, including these self absorbed politicians, will realize that making education available affordably or free to each and every citizen is in everyone's best interest, and the interest of the nation itself and the world as a whole. it is in no one's interest to condemn any part of the population to ignorance, limitation or poverty. it breeds anger, which results in violence and that is bad for everyone, including the extraordinarily privileged .
use your brains folks.
Great story!! The can-do spirit can triumph against all odds. Kudos! Cristina and her courageous 16.
The city of Lawndale needs to wake up and see the onerous burden it is putting on a school struggling to find toe-hold.
Please set up a web site for donations, please, please, please...................... CNN readers are supporters!
News flash for Jose Fernandez, Califonrians are not dumb, you will not get the funding throught those tax initiatives. The public have considered those tax initiatives, and they have decided not to fund them.
so california taxpayer voters do not think? they are completely self absorbed and hedonists?
I'm actually glad that the defunding has happened. It is the start of a real conversation on what we should pay for and what we should not pay for. We're going to have to take a realistic look at the wallet, laws and prisions and make adjustements. Since nothing else seems to get the conversations started, I'm all for complete bankruptcy to force a reboot.
Congratulations on the teacher providing the education in spite of the lack of funding.
Here's my list of WASTED DOLLARS that need to stop:
1. War on Drugs: end all of it. Defund the DEA. Legalize and Tax
2. Military Adventurism: Cut the defense budget by half; close all foreign bases, end all foreign aid.
3. Corporate Welfare: End payments to Big Oil. Tax American companies for each offshored job and profits offshore.
4. Tax Capital Gains at 5% more than average working wages.
5. End Private Prisons: When you run a private prison, inmates are no longer people who are astray and need to be rehabilitated. Instead they are Customers – and all businesses love repeat customers!
That's my list. If you place any of these money pits to be of higher importance than Education, Police protection, Firefighters I would love to hear your (demented) rationale.
Lumping education in with the military-industrial complex and private prisons doesn't make a lot of sense. There's a ton of waste in public education, but do you think the ones most responsible for that waste are the ones suffering from California's cutbacks? Nope. Administrators are more numerous and powerful than ever and do little if anything to actually maintain or improve the quality of education, while it's the classroom personnel: the teachers, aides, even janitors, who get the shaft. And no one gets the shaft worse than the students.
No doubt there are efficiences to be had in Education as well. My simple point is that other areas need to feel the axe first. Do you honestly believe that the waste in Education is greater than the waste in the failed War on Drugs?
I agree with all of the above.
i agree with all but 4. if you increase the tax on capital gains and investment income that investment money will go somewhere else. that means all the big companies die out here and instead we get little shops selling foreign or homemade goods. america is already having trouble with this.
5 i would take further, our prisons are often more comfortable than the life people live outside of them. i would alter all of our prisons based on the Arizona model. everyone works and not nice comfy jobs either. prison is not supposed to be nice. job training and therapy are fine but ac entertainment and no work are not
You can thank the ACLU for making prisons the way they are now. Recidivism is so high now because doing time is so easy.
4. should be taxed the same, not more. No special treatment, but no punishment for investing.
5. Pretty small potatoes in the grand scheme of things.
You're missing a couple other big ticket items.
6. Overhaul personal income tax code. Something alone the lines of Simpson-Bowles should be done.
7. SS and Medicare need overhauls. Things like privatization and/or benefit adjustments are necessary.
Also, in most areas police and fire are OVERcompensated – and substantially. Taxpayers are being bilked by first responder union contracts. Teachers should be paid more (usually), but the delivery model and unions need to go. Our public education is not in shambles because of supposed low pay. It's in shambles because of the red tape, unions/tenure, and well intended policy like No Child Left Behind that's went amuck and is more damaging than beneficial.
Add foster children to that list. Prisoners and children are a commidy to sold by the state for profit. Cons fear socialism but they are convincing me that we need it. Not regulation but nationalization. We are just letting business pick the meat off our bones.
The world needs more teachers like that!
Thanks for being a committed teacher....you're changing lives for the better. Thank you.
Set up a website for donations to help fund your school. If the state of California doesn't see the value in helping these young women, I'm 100% certain the readers of CNN will. God bless you and your family for your sacrifice and efforts.
Surprise, surprise....I thought you libs in CA were for big education initiatives....whaaaaa happened? This is what you can expect when Dems and libs are allowed to run anything....they talk a good game but in the end you get your nose cut off. Funny how this happened under Brown...Just look at the pathetic state of CA....Just keep putting those libs in office....
What? Are you recommending that government budgets and deficits be increased? Are you asking for more spending? I'm confused on your position...you seem to be arguing against spending, but also arguing against cutting spending. Is it perhaps that you simply like rooting for a team when it comes to politics, instead of actually believing in a philosophy and long-term plan?
@Lou...Brown came in and made cuts that he had to make. Like Obama, there was a deficit waiting for him on day one. We ran a deficit to pay for the class when Arnold was here and the class was probably kept open through stimulus money, which has since gone away. Worry about your own state, and don't trash talk when you don't know what you're talking about.
Tell me what "cuts" Obama has made while in office and if he did, why did the deficit soar to $16T while he has been in-office and is projected to go to $20T if he gets a second term! His "stimulus packages helped the Unions far more than any other group of people......what did he do for the average homeowner over these past four years????
Oh, yeah, after four years, it still must be Bush's fault
This did not happen under Brown – the course was just cut in March! But you were just skimming it to find some bs about democrats – you, like most conservatives, don't care for facts.
Joe: Why politicize this wonderful story of the triumph of the human spirit? Get a life! This woman sacrificed for the sake of others... that is the story here! If more people were this selfless the world would be a much better place.
you must not be very educated, huh? it was the republicans that dug california into the red, not the dems. maybe you should just try reading a little bit. under governor brown, california's deficit has been almost cut in half. i'm from illinois. that didn't stop me from finding publicly available data that makes your comment look completely ignorant. go back to watching fox news.
You manage too take an inspiring account of a brave woman risking so much to help others and turn it into a 'lib bashing' event.Blah, blah, blah. Why can't you take the story for what it is and be proud that it yet another example of good Americans helping other Americans. Never mind, don't answer. I already know why you can't. You are a pathetic hater.
The dems run the unions and the unions refuse to make any meaningful sacrifices. They'd rather tax the state and cut classroom days and increase the class sizes. As a mom of two in LAUSD, I see it every day. Although Brown did come in to a mess and has made some tough decisions, it's only because the unions own the state and refuse to make any concessions. That is the root of the problem.
why would the unions make any sacrifices in a state that is as anti-business as california? union workers must protect their jobs, as its unlikely that they will find another given exorbitant costs of new business start-up and licensing fees in CA. the cost of starting a business in california is almost 1/3 higher than the national average. the unions took control of state wages and pushed for policies dictating overtime pay and pension restructuring under a republican administration. in addition, that's what you get for providing overwhelming support for new private prisons, another conservative initiative. who did you think would run them? fact check.
Wow. Yes...this woman is a hero. Now...wait for the conservatives to start saying that all teachers should work for free so that we can give more tax breaks to millionaires.
Hey Ray, it was going pretty good for this class when Arnold was there. Brown... (A DEM) comes in for one year and the program gets cut....so tell me again where the problem is....You people want to CA on a different path, a better path...vote for the Conservative...it may just be a pleasant surprise
Lou, read slowly...maybe you'll understand.
The problem you ask about is the same problem Obam face when he took office.
The previous republican administration didn't bother paying for the things. Just like Bush didn't bother paying for two wars, a prescription plan of his tax cuts. Arnold didn't pay for things and just ran up a huge deficit.
Brown had to make choices on what to cut spending on...this course was one of the cuts.
Lou, the deficits and spending were out of control under Arnold, who was a conservative. Brown is working to get spending under control, but at this point it's not really a conservative/ liberal or partisan issue. It's more of a "California is bankrupt from overspending and we don't have any other choice" issue.
yes, this is a fabulous story. I hope she sets up a website for donations.
In regards to Arnold (who was a completely ineffective governor), he ineffectiveness was due to the entire legislature run by dem's. They completely crafted all the laws that came out of sacramento, and when he tried to make changes, the unions spent tons on commercials and he lost...we can blame the governor and we can blame the pres, but really it's the legislature who moves things along.
What a moving story.
Too bad the Feds spent that $25 billion making sure these people didn't smoke pot... instead of on a classroom.
Too bad the state didn't have the $5 billion in tax revenue they could have had from the sale of illegal drugs.
But they would have if they didn't spend our money in Afghanistan or Iraq (Yes, we're still paying for Iraq, and will be paying off those loans for *MANY* years to come).
Yes, this part of the budget really is that simple. It really is that easy to fix it.
Gary Johnson 2012
I agree! We need to stop the FEDs interference in domestic POT production and distribution.
First of all, the $5B number you throw around is BS; this is a vastly overinflated amount by the people that want to legalize pot and make tons of cash
Second, the increased crime rates, DUI deaths etc will likely cost far more than any incremental revenue. Taxes on cigarettes are far lower than the cost of lung cancer and other related diseases
you demonstrate that ignorance is bliss; I feel my IQ dropping just reading your post
so his figures can actually be looked up...all the opinions you spout are just that...rise in crime?....lung cancer? Thanks for nothing geezer...have another drink.
Take another bong hit and give us some more of your irrational BS
If I'm not mistaken, the Libertarians are also in favor of privatizing education. They wouldn't spend money in the classroom, either. For them, government is for defense (including police and fire) and infrastructure, but that's about it. That's a bit too extreme for my taste.
We will be paying for IRaq for a minimum of 60 years, long after the loans have been paid. We have created over 50,000 vets with serious injuried tha will preclude their ever being able to work. MAny will spend the rest of their lives in the hospital.
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