Overheard on CNN.com: Readers debate what really keeps kids safe at school
Schools of Thought readers weighed in on school security this week with more than 1,000 comments.
January 18th, 2013
01:59 PM ET

Overheard on CNN.com: Readers debate what really keeps kids safe at school

By Jamie Gumbrecht, CNN

(CNN) – In a matter of hours in December, conversations around education stopped being about standardized testing, food allergies and teacher pay. After the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, everybody wanted to know: What's keeping the kids in my life safe at school?

Should school staffers carry guns? Or should every school have an armed police officer? Do guns have any place on school grounds?

How does mental health fit into school safety?

And is it possible that schools and parents are overreacting and could that hurt kids?

This week, CNN's Schools of Thought published several perspectives on school security, giving those who work or have kids in school a chance to explain what's happening in school hallways and offices around the country.

Schools of Thought readers had their own experiences and opinions to share, too. Readers posted more than 1,000 comments debating what reasonable school security policies and resources should look like whether they be guns, police, psychologists or a hard look from knowledgeable community members.

David Thweatt, superintendent of schools in Harrold, Texas, described how his small, rural district implemented a plan to allow some staff members to carry concealed weapons in addition to other security members.

Several readers said they liked that Thweatt's "Guardian Plan" took time to vet and train staff members who wanted to carry guns.

icequeen75: "I think what this administrator (does) makes sense. It is a well thought plan that has the good guys with guns but also extensive training. I also think while we are putting guns in the hands of the good guys, we also need to think of ways to keep guns out of the hands of bad guys.

Encouraged: "Agree 100% with this article. As a kid growing up in suburban Jersey, I definitely knew my school was safer because of the presence of armed security officers. All the more better if there were more trained, but covert, armed personnel. … The poor little ones lost at Newtown deserve their memory honored by providing the means for every student in this country to know he or she is safe and protected when entering a school."

aviva1964: "I really don't know what the big deal is. Many schools already have armed guards. ... Kids see security guards at banks, at stadiums, at airports security at school does not equate to your kids going to school in a prison, nor will it make your kid afraid to go to school. It might make them less afraid."

But many argued that guns have no place in schools, especially in the hands of those hired and trained to educate kids.

Scott B: "I love my kids enough to not want them to go to school prisons."

TomGI: "As long as the decision to arm the school staff is fully disclosed then fine with me. I want to be informed so I can pull my kids out of there. I don't want my kids going to a school with armed staff. There are alternatives to that, and I want to avail myself of them."

And the educators themselves? They came in for and against Harrold's "Guardian Plan."

Jennifer: "I am a teacher and I find it rather insulting when people scoff at the idea of a teacher being trained to use a firearm. ... We already deal with crowd control, conflict resolution, and maintaining order amidst chaos. We are trained to observe an entire scene and assess what needs to happen. We already participate in drills that make us evaluate a situation and respond accordingly. These are all 'tactical' skills, and this is what we use on a daily basis just to maintain a peaceful learning environment in our classrooms. So, as outrageous as it sounds to some, yes, teachers are very capable human beings. Even more so, teachers are very capable human beings who already feel a sense of responsibility to protect children.

Pat Keiser: "As an educator myself I cannot support this idea even with personal feelings toward guns and an increasing gun-culture aside. Granted, this idea seems to have success in Thweatt's school district, it must be taken into account that this is a small school district administering a rural population. Unfortunately, his model cannot be extrapolated out to a larger more urban district. I teach in the city he mentioned being 150 miles southeast of Harrold, a city with 14 high schools in which the one I work at alone possesses more than 2,500 students and 100 teachers. The logistics to begin a program like this in a school district that big would be immense. …

"Good for Harrold ISD; it sounds like you have found a system that works in a community that supports this type of enforcement, but not everywhere does support guns like this nor will they support them going into schools as your community has."

Susan Ingram: "As an educator and ex-Army medic ... I will never carry a weapon into one of my classrooms. I will do my best to protect those in my charge, but my job should not require me to be armed. Enforce the laws in place first. We have enough problems in education without putting the burden of 'marksman' on our CVs.

"I have an idea. ...  Instead of spending $600 on a 9mm Glock for my classroom ... could I have some notebooks, pencils and a few extra textbooks??

Lenore Skenazy, a mother and writer from New York, skewered knee-jerk reactions she says create paranoia and fear without making kids safer. Plenty of readers were glad to see their feelings represented on the blog.

common sense: "Thank you for printing at least one article with some common sense to it. People always go to some knee-jerk reaction to what is a terrible and tragic event. Politicians then jump on these things like dogs fighting for a bone, just to claim they did something regardless of how ignorant and shortsighted it is."

CJfromTexas: "Our sixth-grader was suspended three days for making an 'inappropriate' comment about a 3-inch toy gun another kid brought to school (the other boy was also suspended). The comment was "I'm glad thing that isn't real because it could kill people." Rather hyper-reactionary we thought, but it was pointless to fight. Does this only seem ridiculous to us because it was our kid? I fail to see how this type of policy makes anyone safe."

Roger: "My son's school requires everyone to sign in. I guess they'll catch the guy with the assault rifle when he follows the rules because of course he would! And to think, some want to arm the very people making these stupid rules!"

But some readers didn't think the rules Skenazy criticized were so "silly."

Stew Shearer: "Her criticism of the day care trying to prevent 'piggybacking' is a bit silly. … My daughter's day care had an incident around the same time as the Newton shootings where an individual piggybacked, passed the door code and then attempted to make contact with their child, violating a restraining order. And while it might seem inconsiderate and awkward to refuse admission to someone you don't recognize, it's a better option than being nice and letting a complete stranger into a small building filled with our children ages 6 weeks to 6 years.

Lou: "I can see see her point but, sheesh, Lenore, why don't you try running a freaking school and keeping all those kids safe? It's so easy to sit back and ridicule school administrators' efforts, but I personally would not want to be the one in charge of a school."

Joan: "I understand why there may be a bit of paranoia ... and what is really wrong with that? We are talking about children that were gunned down just by being in school. … I for one am glad that diaglogue has opened up about ways to try and prevent these things from happening. If it takes a few 'silly, stupid' ideas to begin the conversations needed, than so be it. "

Educators agreed that seemingly small rules can take a toll on their teaching time and how does that help schools?

Frumpy Grammarian: "As a parent and a teacher, I'm also taken aback at the ridiculous knee-jerk reactions that certain schools put into place in the name of security theater. I'd rather be safe, than just feel safe by having ridiculous rules applied to me by well-intentioned but misdirected efforts of school administrators posing as amateur security consultants. My students and I are not safer simply because names and drivers' licenses are taken at the school doorstep.

"Do I have a solution to the problem? No, and I don't claim to have one, either. But I'm smart enough to realize that a lot of what's being done in the name of a solution isn't actually such, either it's theater."

Art: "I have two friends who are teachers in elementary schools and they complain now that they do not have time to go to the bathroom, let alone attempt to enforce all the different nonteaching regulations imposed on them before this event. They dread the new 'ideas' (that) will be imposed on them and are thinking about dropping out of the profession because they are getting away from teaching and giving to the children; now they are parenting, parking lot monitoring, security, and even having to doctor children who have medical and mental issues at the expense of the rest of the children."

Cathy Paine, a school psychologist in Oregon, identified ways for schools to create a positive learning environment with mental health services and focus on students’ day-to-day safety and well-being. Few argued with Paine, but they said they worried whether it was feasible for cash-strapped schools.

Kronsbeast: "The trade-off here is that having a mental health professional on duty in every school would cost a great deal of money."

JWalk: "Our county just agreed to put an armed police officer in every school, at a great cost to the taxpayers. I guess it's a trade-off of how we want our money spent."

When user WhatDoes asked whether Paine's suggestions were a guarantee for safety, Paine responded.

MsPaine: "I do not believe there are any guarantees here. We can't predict with reliability who is likely to commit an act of school violence before they do it, nor can we prevent every heavily armed person from causing injuries/deaths. We can, however, take many proactive steps. The question of how much physical security to provide in our schools is one that should be left up to each school and community. There is no 'one-size-fit-all' answer. Some schools will choose armed guards and metal detectors. Others will not. However, every school can provide reasonable physical security, such as locked doors, lighted and monitored hallways and visitor check-in, check-out systems. A primary goal should be to reinforce learning as well as safety. Key to this is ensuring that all who are involved are integral members of the school community, including school resource officers and other security personnel. These efforts must be combined with violence prevention, mental health services and positive behavior supports for all students."

Kevin Quinn, a school resource officer in Arizona, encouraged schools to add armed, uniformed, full-time police to schools’ administration teams. He pointed out that many hadn't heard of school resource officers till after the shooting in Newtown, but they were part of President Barack Obama's gun control and safety plan announced this week.

Veronica: "I'm glad to hear that there is such a thing. That certainly is much, much better than the idea of arming teachers/school staff who may not be psychologically equipped to deal with situations as well as you. Young teens aren't the only ones suffering from mental disorders after all."

lagunalady27: "I taught in public secondary schools for over 40 years. I remember when every secondary school in California had (school resource officers). It was fabulous. They often diffused problems before they could get really bad. Sometimes, they learned about situations in the planning and avoided them altogether. Everyone felt safer then."

A few commenters suggested that school resource officers don't keep schools safe or build positive relationships with students, but instead, feed young people into the prison system.

S Bradford: "In schools that are low-income or of color, they contribute to the school-to-prison pipeline and involve more kids in the justice system, something that has lasting negative consequences. Often (school resource officers) arrest or cite kids for behavior that has traditionally been handled within the school."

And some aren't sure whether police can really help.

Jack Halbert: "Police in schools is just a placebo, a false sense of security. If some crazed lunatic really wanted to shoot at schoolchildren, they don't even have to enter the school. It's more important to have realistic background checks, including what types of psychotropic or psychiatric medications someone is on at the time."

gabzgrl: "So, not to burst the bubble, police officers are people too. … How can having more guns inside schools solve the issue of gun violence? … You can't really avoid more human error by subjecting schoolchildren to being surrounded by these men and women officers with weapons/guns.

"If it works and does prevent more episodes of gun violence I'm all for it. I don't really disagree; we have a right to own guns; on the other hand we have to ensure that we can trust each other.

What do you think will keep schools safer? Share your thoughts, ideas and experiences in the comments.

soundoff (97 Responses)
  1. cacique

    The best way to protect the students attending any school is to keep fire weapons a mile away from the school.
    You don't know when an armed guard will go crazy and start shooting anything in sight.
    No guns of any kind will immediately make any school safe 100% more.

    Keep your guns at home under lock and pretty much anticpate your adolescent kids' intentions to show
    them off –and use them–to impress their friends. Especially if they happen to be the ones who usually
    get bullied.

    January 26, 2013 at 11:24 am |
  2. Dave T

    Should there be a surtax on weapons to pay for technologies for schools to increase security? Should people, who own one, be required to have a security system for their homes and cars? There would be a secured GPS chip welded onto these weapons. There would be a GPS reader, supplied by the security company, where if the weapon leaves the home or car, the owner and authorities would be contacted by text or other means. The chip would then be activated so places like the check in building at schools and malls could pick up this signal. These check in building would be placed outside of these (school,mall) buildings. This GPS chip reader would be installed within this building. If the chip reader indicates a activated GPS signal, the doors to the school and mall would automatically go to lock down.

    January 26, 2013 at 10:41 am |
  3. Dolton

    I agree we need armed guards, and maybe some sort of big fence around the building. The classes should all be held in secure rooms with bullet proof glass and auto locks on the doors. Kids should never have to leave the school incase some one might be waiting outside for them, so we will have living quarters installed. 24 hour roving security that shoot anyone out past curfew on sight would also be nice. Maybe some sort of claymore mines set to trip wires, incase the school can't afford enough armed personal.

    January 25, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
    • patti

      Your talking about a PRISON right? Not a school RIGHT?

      January 25, 2013 at 6:36 pm |
    • Cosmin

      I'm waiting for the US government to ban all waponry. This will solve a lot of your problems... if you can admit it. Having a gun in your house means you are ready to kill somebody else. This makes you all armed americans criminals

      January 26, 2013 at 8:01 am |
      • Roland H

        If you are forced to kill someone in self defence, would it be better to just give up in the name of pacifiism and let them kill you. What if there are other people involved? What if you had a gun and were in the school when the killer arrived, what if you shot him and there by stopped many others from being killed? Would that be a bad thing, or should you have been a pacifist and let all those other people be killed. Guns are not just for killing people they are for self defence why do you think cops have them. Most of the time simply having a gun deters the killer or forces him to stop. The vast majority of the time no shots have to be fired.

        January 26, 2013 at 9:51 am |
      • Roland H

        Don't hold your breath, they gonna ban fists too, what about rocks and sticks. Get serious and try living in the world of reality Reality may be a little scary at times but it's far more interesting than your fantasy world..

        January 26, 2013 at 9:56 am |
  4. janelle

    I do believe we should have armed security in our schools. Gun debate aside, as long as there are humans on this earth, there are going to be people intent on harming others. These people are deliberate and methodical, they plan out how they are going to inflict that harm, and they ALWAYS target the vulnerable. What is more vulnerable than a building full of children? Where there is only one adult for every 20 children? Many schools, mostly middle and high schools, already have resource officers, some districts arm them, some don't. The main intent is go keep drugs and gangs out. A lot of the urban, inner city schools do have armed security. These schools aren't the schools that end up being targeted by a mass murderer, it's the schools least likely to have armed security, the smaller rural schools. To me, it just makes sense to have an armed security person at all schools. They don't have to be in uniform, their weapon can be concealed, but having a trained, professional, armed security person makes each school safer and more secure.

    January 25, 2013 at 1:21 pm |
  5. Carol hill

    The problem is s spiritual problem. We have not honored the God of creation and we are suffering the results. He is not punishing us, it is the lack of "light – His commandments" that have allowed darkness to creep in. I know there are many liberals who would laugh at my suggestion, but it does not change the facts. Go back and do a study on when first prayer was removed from school and chart the rise of problems as the nation journeyed down the path of darkness. There was a time the Ten Commandments were inside each classroom, now children are allowed to make up their our minds about what is right and wrong. The results . . . a nation spiraling out of control.

    January 25, 2013 at 11:40 am |
  6. John Grastorf

    From a construction professional having built many schools: redundant and well developed systems protect our public buildings from fire particularly and other hazards. For violence response, design needs to include immediate transmission of a problem, safe areas, containment strategy and undoubtedly more. Look at the building and its already existing systems.

    January 25, 2013 at 8:43 am |
    • Anne

      I agree with John Grastorf when he talks of having school buildings built to lessen danger in case of fire that the same should be done for the danger of AMOK runners. I would go further and say that like there are fire drills in schools with alarms going off and everybody calmly trouping out that there should also be amok-runner drills – perhaps only for the teachers at first until the best drills are found. I read that in Germany after a young killer ran through a school killing students and teachers, where many were killed, that a few years later at another school where a similar situation occured they had a plan. In this case a young man stole his father's guns and ran through his old school, the school headmaster had previously prepared the teachers for the unthinkable happening. There was a loudspeaker system that announced the arrival of Mrs Koma in the school, the code words for an amok attack. The teachers knew immediately what was happening and locked their doors, had the children duck below the extensive windows, only a few being injured as the gunman fired through the windows and bullets bounced off walls etc. From memory a janitor was badly injured and one of two who happened to be in corridors on the time. I'm sure in the US security staff can think up all sorts of harm-prevention drills to limite the number of tragedies.

      January 25, 2013 at 11:52 am |
  7. Don

    The gunman, a coward. chose a battle ground where he knew he would not meet resistance. He knew that the school was defenseless against his onslaught of violence and would be no match for his firepower. A new type of less than lethal weapon needs to be developed. one that buys time by taking away the gunman's ability to see his targets and one that gives you the ability to incapacitate the gunman. The device in my mind, is powered by a rechargeable battery pack. It has a selector switch to permit selection of smoke, foam and liquid capsaicin (ingredient found in mace).
    To deploy the less than lethal weapon you first select smoke. You point the less than lethal weapon in the general direction of the gunman and pull the trigger. as the trigger is pulled a wireless signal is sent that triggers an audible alarm inside the building and alerts local law enforcement. Dense pressurized smoke is emitted from the front of your less than lethal weapon thus taking away the gunman's ability to see his targets. The alarm is a signal to the students and teachers to put on their breathing masks. these masks also employ a means to permit seeing through smoke. Thanks to a special scope attached to your less than lethal weapon you can see what the gunman can't. Best of all you can see the gunman. You now have two more options to incapacitate the gunman. you can select foam or liquid mace. The foam creates a super slippery surface making it impossible for the gunman to move about the building. concentrated liquid mace can then be sprayed to the gunman's chest or face from a distance of about 100 to 150 feet resulting in intense irritation to the mucous membranes, eyes and central nervous system, accompanied by an intense burning sensation to exposed skin.

    January 24, 2013 at 9:42 pm |
  8. Shai'Tierre

    I Think That NO GUNS Should Be Aloud In School , Not Even The " Guards " , Because A Guard Or Someone Could Be Havinq A Bad Day , & They Could Hurt One Of Us Students If They Wanted ... It's Really Scary , Because I'm In Hiqh School.. I Think EVERY School Should Have Doors Like The Banks, That Way They Can See Who Os Carrying A Concealed Weapon

    ~ Shai'Tierre ~ Let's Make Our Schools A BETTER & SAFER Environment For Our Friends & Family !

    January 24, 2013 at 7:23 pm |
    • patti

      Now I have question for all the gun owners who want to arm teachers...Jerry Sandusky now has a gun now? Wow what a great law that would be! Not all teachers or gards or police officers should have guns..history is out there! Gus are not the answer!

      January 25, 2013 at 6:48 pm |
  9. magyart

    Columbus, OHIO ~ One of our local high schools just sufferred a tragic shooting. Fortunately, it was only one male teenager. They caught the two teens that planned it. Now, that they have been charged as adults, the paper reportes they both have a lengthly juvenile record. One has a prior gun conviction. The 2nd one has no convictions because the judge declared him incompetent to stand trail, yet his only treatment is an ankle braclet.

    The young man that died also had a juvenile record, and an ankle braclet. He should have gone home, instead of an after school fight, but he didn't deserve death.

    All three of these criminals were permitted to attend school, wearing an ankle bracelet. All three repeatedly violated the terms of their house arrest.

    So, how many of these offenders are in our schools ? Are the schools even aware of them being convicted and/or under house arrest ?

    What about your school ? How many of the kids wear an ankle braclet ?

    None of these teenagers get reported to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) Upon their 18th birthday, they can buy any gun, any where, and use it for any crime.

    January 24, 2013 at 5:05 pm |
  10. Todd

    My money is in the bank Safeguarded !
    The doors are locked the alarm is set my home is safeguarded !
    I keep my ammunition and my weapons In separate safes again Safeguarded !
    When driving I pay attention and fall the laws The children buckled in Safeguarded !
    My children go to to school and there is no one to safeguard them!
    When evil shows its ugly head somebody needs to put it down !

    January 24, 2013 at 8:40 am |
    • sadderyet

      sadder yet is when you realize that evil is rearing it's ugly head
      in you or your loved ones
      and you go to doc to complain that you just aren't feeling like yourself
      so they give you prozac and zeprexa to even you out
      and kill all that isn't evil and is in your nerve cells
      and then speed you on your way to newer crisper feelings of deadened evil
      so you will no longer feel upset that you are not quite yourself lately
      until you realize too late that you truly are not yourself
      and are not fully aware of the evil within
      to make you happier and more like them

      January 24, 2013 at 9:03 am |
      • Todd

        Hey what happened to just say no?

        January 24, 2013 at 10:35 am |
      • thoughts

        you might have to ask yourself that if you get accussed of mental illness – and are offered a new home in one of 'their' 'homes for the mentally ill' someday – and they fear monger you into taking their drugs ... so ...
        DON'T GET SICK – JUST SAY NO
        hah
        no, actually, those warnings that come with the meds NOW weren't there until many people died from them and lots others wouldn't stop screaming ... for a lot of years ... and the new meds they are making ... someone will scream and scream and scream until someday someone asks them ... hey – why didn't you just say no
        moral to the story ...
        always say no – that is the key

        January 25, 2013 at 1:11 am |
  11. Josh Amberg

    The idea of school for safer is to have police office in school like rome free academy have police office in rome ny so all school in US should have police officers in school too for kids safe and high school too

    January 23, 2013 at 7:52 pm |
  12. Neil

    Weapons have no place in school. If we hire armed guards, they wont be in the right place. If we arm the teachers, they will make a mistake. The next step would be to arm the students, and that would be tragic. We can make it illegal to have a gun. It was already against the law to shoot people, I am not convinced our government can save us here. We have to do a better job raising our kids. We have to do a better job educating them. We have to prepare our kids to be survivors.

    January 23, 2013 at 11:46 am |
    • Joe

      Those of you who want to put guns in schools are missing a point. How many of you have killed anyone? Do you have any idea how hard it is to look in the eyes of an enemy as the life drains out of him from the round you just put in him. Do you know what happens to the .1% of Law Enforcement who have use deadly force. Do you really think a teacher who choose a career to help children is going to be able to pull the trigger.

      There are non-leathal ways that are more effective and you would not hesitate to use them. Mace, tasers, flashbangs, and so much more. With these there is no hesitation to deply the weapon becuase there is no chance you will end a life.

      Besides if we allow our fears to place guns in schools, where will place them next

      January 23, 2013 at 9:37 pm |
  13. Dionne

    I thinks all schools should have doors like hotel rooms. They can only be opened from the inside. Front door should be locked and the main doors to the hallway can only be opened by a code. Simple and effective.

    January 22, 2013 at 3:10 pm |
  14. Alaina

    As a student, every school I have attended has had an armed officer. It all depends on the officer. I feel safe at the school I attend currently, because my resource officer is friendly. At another school I attended, the resource officer was more cold and unfriendly, and I was frightened by him. I would be scared if teachers were armed in schools; some teachers at my school have voiced that they fear having guns in school is more dangerous than not having armed teachers (I attend a K-12 school). Many have noted having metal detectors. I would feel like my school does not trust me at all, and it would scare many younger children. Since the many rules have been put into place for safety at my school. All outside doors are locked at the beginning of the school day except for the main entrance that can be seen by the main office. Many teachers lock their doors once class starts and some put up paper to cover windows in case of an intruder. Luckily my school is on a college campus, and there is a warning siren/speakers that come on in any dangerous situation (fire, earthquake, armed person). Having a warning system has helped already. An armed intruder entered the college campus last year, and everyone went on lockdown. The teachers and staff knew what to do: Close the blinds, lock the doors, keep the students away from windows and doors, and keep quiet. Sometimes that is all you can do. No one was hurt thankfully. With guns, I believe people should be able to have guns, however, I do not see the real reason many people own assault weapons (automatic weapons). I realize most people who own guns are mentally stable and are trustworthy with guns, but I would like to see more control and more background checks.

    January 22, 2013 at 12:53 pm |
  15. Poopy

    All this is garbage no more shootings

    January 22, 2013 at 10:01 am |
  16. zlop

    Internet home/group schooling, with occasional well regulated social interactions,
    Bring a Protection Adult to school, or stay home.
    Allowing pedophile autocrats to dominate parents, is the problem.

    "McConnell claims the late Adam Lanza had threatened to
    expose his mother and her pedophile doomsday preppers"

    January 22, 2013 at 1:04 am |
    • thoughts

      It does seem odd that the latest mass killings in theater and sandy hook contained a large amount of theatrics and inconsistencies, and ended very quickly in fear mongered destruction of the essence of unity and tolerance allowing for the sudden uncontested deterioration of citizen rights in the US. Much like the 2001 events that hijacked the USA into Mideast wars without reserve – the possibility of unrest and unjust actions is now incited in our own land. Sad day for all to have a revered civil rights leader single out any group for further victimization in a way which is directly against the very same values of freedom and equality for all for which he stands, and further places many at risk from inadvertent harm who are now associated with a certain type of illnesses that has historically fared poorly in treatment and cure, and will continue to apparently, at the hands of those whom stand to gain monetarily from the 'patients' demise and continued victimization and exploitation.

      January 22, 2013 at 2:06 am |
      • moreThoughts

        This is the most glaring indiscrepancy – that a classification of illness that encompasses the elderly, the military, the youth of the nation in controlling ways – such as the use of Ritalin, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants, and the marginalization of these individuals due to the victimization that made them the way they are – if you have watched or read or heard of the gross corruption within pharma and the nation's water and food supplies – and mental health practices that feeds the rich and the privatized penal system – while draining all sense of normalcy from the patient and society ... and his new term just started ... you seriously are left wondering – what next???

        wonder if he would answer 'us'?

        January 22, 2013 at 3:28 am |
      • thoughts

        the ederly stand to lose the most at this point in time
        and those whom are marginilized – at schools, employment, military ......... society as a whole

        January 22, 2013 at 4:05 am |
  17. Mike

    How many school kids have grandfathers? How many grandfathers are retired and have some time on their schedule ? How many grandfathers would volunteer one or two days a week to guard the kids in the schools? I, for one, have military experience as an MP, have a CCW license and would gladly, for no compensation, step up and serve in the role of guarding the defenseless children in my school district. I am physically active and competent, already had a background check, ready to respond. A day or two would be easily managed by most retirees. It would cost nothing but, a little organizing and training on the part of the local law enforcement. Get real!! There is evil in the world and it won't go away. Our innocent school kids deserve protection from the crazies out there. Why do we not realize there is a tremendous resource available in the recently retired community? We are not sitting on the porch in rocking chairs. We are vital, experienced, responsible adults who care deeply about our grandchildren and their well being. We are a resource that is not appreciated for the value we represent. Say the word and I am there.

    January 21, 2013 at 7:01 pm | Reply

    January 21, 2013 at 7:49 pm |
  18. Mike

    How many school kids have grandfathers? How many grandfathers are retired and have some time on their schedule ? How many grandfathers would volunteer one or two days a week to guard the kids in the schools? I, for one, have military experience as an MP, have a CCW license and would gladly, for no compensation, step up and serve in the role of guarding the defenseless children in my school district. I am physically active and competent, already had a background check, ready to respond. A day or two would be easily managed by most retirees. It would cost nothing but, a little organizing and training on the part of the local law enforcement. Get real!! There is evil in the world and it won't go away. Our innocent school kids deserve protection from the crazies out there. Why do we not realize there is a tremendous resource available in the recently retired community? We are not sitting on the porch in rocking chairs. We are vital, experienced, responsible adults who care deeply about our grandchildren and their well being. We are a resource that is not appreciated for the value we represent. Say the word and I am there.

    January 21, 2013 at 7:01 pm |
  19. Daniel

    1.create a chokepoint with metal detecter at entrance.
    2.your gonna want plenty of standoff between the entrance and the security checkpoint just in case someone did try something crazy.
    3. i dont think an armed guard at every school is smart at all.people cant teleport.

    January 21, 2013 at 6:57 pm |
  20. Blondie

    Call me a dumb blonde, but i dont see how everyone in the US owning a weapon could have prevented any of these mass shootings. ARMED guards is the answer.

    January 21, 2013 at 12:46 pm |
  21. Sprolesman

    I'm sure you've heard it before. But i know people in the military that don't know what they are going to do when they decide to leave. I say setup some sort of program that someone from the military can enter for this job rather then taking a cop off the streets. I think there is an opportunity here that can be molded into something for many years to come and someone kids can look up to. I can get into detail on what the role and requirements could perhaps be, but not typing all of that....

    January 21, 2013 at 11:22 am |
  22. RESOLVED

    Bible Scripture Reading IN SCHOOL STOPPED
    Prayer in School STOPPED
    Lack of Respect for The GOD!
    GO BACK TO THE BASICS PEOPLE.
    PRAYER IN THE HOMES, PRAYER IN OUR SCHOOLS PRAYER IN OUR COUNTRY
    AND NOT ON SPECIAL OCASSIONS OR WHEN SOMETHING EVIL GETS OUR ATTENTION
    BE PROACTIVE NOT REACTIVE. IT IS NO MYSTERY WHAT IS WRONG!
    BLESSING TO ALL

    January 21, 2013 at 10:00 am |
  23. Izzy

    On the topic of police officers in school: Growing up, when I was in high school, my good friend went to school just one town over for me. His school was much larger than mine and had a reputation of having a lot of (high school) "crime". For that reason, the town had placed a few police officers at the school. About 3-6 depending on the day. I went to his high school quite often right after it let out to pick him up so we could hang out. The one thing I always noticed was that man of the students had very good relationships with these police officers. Most were on a first name basis with them. More than once I'd stop by his school and see a lot of them hanging out around the officers cruisers and talking to them before they went home. So it's safe to say that these kids never felt intimidated. by these officers, in fact, it's safe to say that the appreciated their presence. And despite their school being a very large one, the officers were quick to realize who belonged and who didn't. When I tried to follow my friend into the school one time before it had let out, one of the officers noticed me and didn't recognize me so he stopped me and asked me for ID and what I was doing there. Honestly, it made me wish I had police officers at my school. That's why I can't understand why people would be reluctant to have police officers in school. You trust them with your life out the town or city you live in, you raise your kids to know how to dial 911 and to find a police officer if they ever need help, so why would you not want those that we trust with our protection everyday to be placed in our schools so they can constantly watch over your children? Not to me took that most kids (until about high school age) have a huge fascination with police officers. I can't really see how it would be a bad idea.

    January 21, 2013 at 8:09 am |
  24. Michelle

    I think that David Thweatt plan to improve the secutiy is good. Putting the gun in a good guys hand, and put the security guards at schools make the envirement more safe for the students. I don't think that it will it make the student afraid to go to school. It might make them less afraid.

    January 21, 2013 at 3:14 am |
    • Carl

      I am totaly agree with you, Michelle.

      January 21, 2013 at 3:18 am |
  25. Input Welcome

    Working Draft: Re: Letter to the President

    NOTE: Your constructive input is welcome.

    We, the people are deeply concerned about the following, which we request, as we the people, your immediate attention to if at all possible. The reason that we make this immediate request is due to the very real concern for the safety, well-being, and protection from harm of mental patients of all ages, religions, nationalities, gender, race, and ethnicity, etc., and disabilities in light of the recent tragedies that has placed a huge amount of blame on autistic persons, and mandates signed by you that could be construed to violate the rights of the mentally ill and their families.

    Historically, the mentally ill have been treated poorly in this country, much like those whom the revered civil rights leaders of our great country challenged all to provide equal opportunity, education, rights, judicial access and fairness of courts, legal systems, education, schools, jobs, housing, health care, etc.. Today, we are asking you to do the same for the mentally ill and their families, communities, and society as a whole (as all could be disabled from mental illness at some point in their lives – and historically – most are).

    While the power and politics of the system within which the responsibility for mental health practices, procedures, and policies encompasses many whom benefit and thrive, many of the patients and much of society are made to suffer the greatest of burdens and sorrow because of it.

    There are many reasons why so many suffer at the hands of the current mental health system, as you may well know. It is widely considered to be a system of care that is very deeply flawed by those whom are aware of the true realities of the way things really are in the mental health system, and/or the reasons and reasoning as to why the system is so flawed. To ask the patients to suffer through not only their illness, healing, recovery, and management of their illness at the same time that they must also suffer at the hands of this deeply flawed system places an inordinately undue and unhealthy burden and suffering on not only them, but on the whole of society as well.

    President Obama, the most obvious need that is not being considered in the last few weeks national affairs, in which you have so immediately made sweeping changes to the rights bestowed upon all of this great nation of independently minded souls, was one of the deep rooted anger that exists in the USA today, be it toward the mentally ill or gun rights issues or whatever. To single either one or whatever out for discrimination in signed action that will, in essence, limit the future and rights of every single citizen of this great nation, only serves to invite further victimization, discrimination and prejudice against all deemed to be or made to be in any group of similarly classified individuals. As outlined in the laws of this land, which you have sworn to uphold, and to which your pledge we honor as you do ours, as a united 'we the people' governed under a respected and trusted unifying law of the land, we humbly ask you to reconsider your recent actions under the same wisdom you value by your honor chosen mentors, and to whom, we thoughtfully agree to their mission of freedom and equality for all.

    The restrictions you have placed on the rights of the mentally ill are a closing of the door to the rights you honor with your pledge to defend, honor, and uphold for ALL citizens of the USA. We question the possibility now allowed that many might fall prey to those whom may wish to exploit and / or harm those with disabilities and related, or as ill guided control, or weapon of discrimination and prejudicial policies, practices, and procedures against any made to fall into this category of citizens or deemed to be in this category of citizen. This is now a great burden to all, and places many at further risk of harm, discrimination and prejudice, as you could well imagine given the need for revered leaders and movements throughout the ages.

    It is hard to imagine how banning guns can be such a problem, yet forcing the banning of guns on those at the mercy of a mental health system that is not prepared to deal fairly with such power to control, discriminate, and cause harm, exploitation, nor the loss of protected rights throughout the entire system of education, judicial, employment, military, health care, mental health care, security systems and officers, society as a whole and as individuals, families, communities, churches, non-profit groups, universities, the agencies set up to regulate all that can cause mental illness in our foods, water, medicine, practices, procedures, and policies, and ALL can be and ARE AT MERCY of this type illness and treatment without legal representation and supports, and a fair and equal judicial system, that this could truly be ok.

    Therefore, we the people, request humbly and with post haste to amend to these signed actions provisions that will allow for the furthering of reasoning throughout all levels of the greatest government system put in place by the people, for the people, and for which we are all pledged to honor and protect and defend as USA citizens of this great and wonderful land of which we know, that you, our chosen leader, will be able to see the wisdom of your forefathers and revered leaders and mentors as being the only true way for our nation to be for the people, by the people. Thank you and God Bless you in your leadership and wisdom as you guide this grand nation through four more years of being a nation built on the wisdom of many.

    Sincerely and with Deepest Respect,

    'We the People', USA
    January 20, 2013

    January 21, 2013 at 3:06 am |
  26. Fred

    To All Teachers, Principals, Headmasters and School Board Members

    I am a retired career teacher. After Columbine and Virginia Tech murders I wondered what I would do if a crazed shooter came into my classroom. I could come up with only one answer. I would have died and so would my students. This time, the NRA is right and I am not a member. They stated that "the only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." It sounds drastic and unsettling, and it is. But when I think of the 20 little innocent first graders who were SLAUGHTERED along with six faculty members who were trying to save them with no means of doing so, this cries out for a permanent solution to protect our students and faculties.

    What to do. While this chronic threat to our schools is being talked to death among state and federal officials, in the mean time, most of our schools are vulnurable to another horrible Newtown attack. How is 'the faculty of a school supposed to insure the safety of their students? Ignore the problem? Wishful thinking? It couldn't happen here!!

    If I were in charge of the safety of a school I would put in place these safeguards.
    l. I would get the faculty together to ask if there were any teachers who would be willing to take special weapons training with the purpose of their being a last line of defense against an invading shooter. Three or four faculty per school with that capacity would add a lot of insurance against another mass slaughter.

    2. I would change the entrance to the school that would consist of a single entrance to the school protected with a metal detector system that automatically locked the entrance door if metal was detected on an enterring person. This same entrance would be guarded during the school day by an armed guard.

    3. And in addition to those immediate changes, I would ask school faculty and counselors to try to identify students who may have mental issues about getting counseling and psychiatric care for these students so that future
    disasters can be avoided.

    January 20, 2013 at 8:26 pm |
  27. Ralph

    1) Walls/fences... what keep the bad guys from getting out (of prison) and keeping the innocent safe (schools)
    2) Guards with tasers, at the entrances. One entrance/exit. There are guards at banks, at federal buildings... money is guarded more securely.
    3) Prayers at school. People respected their neighbors (and views) and life more in the past than in the present.

    January 20, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
  28. nunya business

    1) Re-implement corporal punishment.
    2) Get tougher on bullies. Send bullies home if they don't comply with standards.
    3). Put strong doors on schools, keep em locked during school hours. If doors are kicked or pryed open an alarm goes off alerting police and someone at the schools should have access to a gun.

    January 20, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
  29. Michael Ruzicho

    Honestly security, watchful eyes, authority presence, and possible technology that can pick out weapons are really the only way we can make schools safe. We cannot let tragedy make us overreact, but have us more discipline to handle security issues. We cannot teach our kids that guns and violence solve problems, but open communication does.

    January 20, 2013 at 3:56 pm |
    • s.aroyster

      well said

      January 20, 2013 at 7:22 pm |
  30. s.aroyster

    I'm sorry but because the stress that teachers are already under ,some on medication would not past the background check and putting an armed guard at the entrance with secure door that can only be open from the inside is enough and it's sad that this is a concern and the good guys just who are the good guys these days it hard to tell can anything be safer then your family but still many die at the hands of family a lot in the past few years i pray that this never happens again but how many more have to die before we get that (more or good guys) gun do not work

    January 20, 2013 at 2:35 pm |
  31. Ashley

    Kids feel safe at school when they know that their teachers and other staff know what to do in case of an emergancy.

    January 20, 2013 at 2:02 pm |
  32. Lakshmi

    Familly Tracker App with Panic mode, It helps to identify your family members in need of help
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.svts.familytracker

    January 20, 2013 at 1:33 pm |
  33. Mike C

    It is a complex issue that requires some federal,state and local as well as parental decisions being made. Our society have different cultures in different regions,and therefore different solutions. I think a federal approach to restrict guns in the hands and families that have mental issues with members of the family that live in the gun-owners home needs to be addressed. Simple locks and gun safes might be the answer, and there are many other solutions.
    On a state level, they should work with the federal laws and dove tail state laws that will help the issue of criminals and citizens with mental issues getting their hands on guns.
    On a local and personal level we must take some responsibilities to control access to our guns. If we control access then state and federal control would be less likely. We as Americans can vote in pro gun owner officials and know if they are republican or democrat, is not the issue. The issue is are they pro gun ownership.
    We as Americans should realize, that it is about 50/50, as far as political parties go, and there are pro gun and anti gun on both sides. In short 3 to 5% of Americans can make a big difference in the political Americans can control our right to bear arms. The right to buy or not buy almost any guns,rifles, and semi-automatic weapon as we choose,can be safe, if we choose the right politicians from local to federal officials. Again, we have the control, so far.
    Even if we have some bad politicians that pass bad laws we can fight it and reverse bad legislation,but why have that harder fight,just participate in the process and prevent the problem in the first place. IMHO

    January 20, 2013 at 1:02 pm |
  34. Shane

    School Prayer

    January 20, 2013 at 10:52 am |
    • Mika

      Less and less families are religious in the current age. Multiple cultures and beliefs are eminent as well.. Maybe words of motivation, kindness and security are more suited rather than a reading from the Bible?

      January 21, 2013 at 3:13 am |
  35. humberto

    In elementary school that went to 6 th grade, all the 6th grade students were given patrol belts and stationed at every door and school crossing with school guard or cop before the bell rang.
    Afterwards the side doors were locked and the only way in was the front door that only led to the office, locked from the hall

    January 20, 2013 at 6:53 am |
    • humberto

      There were two at every door, gate, crossing and landings in the building so no one fell on the stairs.

      January 20, 2013 at 6:57 am |
      • humberto

        Two on each side of the street

        January 20, 2013 at 7:02 am |
    • humberto

      Patrol belts with badges with numbers on them.

      January 20, 2013 at 7:05 am |
      • humberto

        And cops didn't mess with us after school, they thought we were part gazelle.

        January 20, 2013 at 7:10 am |
    • humberto

      5th grade too.

      January 20, 2013 at 7:30 am |
  36. Fais

    Every teacher, student, administration staff, service staff, contractors, etc should be screened through heavy metal detectors and scanners when they enter and exit the premises. More surveillance cameras covering in and out of the school premises including all walkways, halls, classrooms, toilets, teachers rooms, principal’s office, etc should be sufficient.

    There is no need to arm teachers and for guards roaming around with guns etc.

    January 20, 2013 at 6:20 am |
  37. robert b

    Press release by Sandy Hook state and federal investigators. NO longarms uses only 4 pistols recovered in S.H. school. How come CNN not covering?

    January 20, 2013 at 3:56 am |
    • robert b

      NBC covered the investigator findings yesterday. No tactical rifles used at Sandy Hook tragedy. Only 4 pistols recovered inside school. Meanwhile other information questionable, Why is President misleading, lying to public again like embassy invasion and Fast N Furious? Why is our president openly arming cartels and Muslim terrorists is much more important..why is our president buying more ammunition than any non army? And then trying to take away all arms that are defense protection?.not to discredit the importance of children safety.

      January 20, 2013 at 4:06 am |
      • Judith

        Actually two hand guns and a Bushmaster.

        January 21, 2013 at 7:49 am |
  38. Rediranch

    I don't understand why the Gun Free Zone sign didn't keep those kids safe.

    (sarcasm)

    January 19, 2013 at 9:45 pm |
  39. DMG2FUN

    Get rid of the gun free zone signs.

    January 19, 2013 at 9:27 pm |
  40. Dan

    Metal detectors and give security guards Mace and Taser pistols.

    January 19, 2013 at 7:52 pm |
    • L. TUTTLE

      IF WE TREATED OUR SCHOOL KIDS LIKE THE GOLD (THAT THEY ARE) IN FORT KNOX;THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. PUT UP A TALL PROTECTIVE METAL FENCES WITH A SECURITY POST ON EACH SIDE OF THE SCHOOL GROUNDS AND CHECK EVERY PERSON COMING AND GOING FROM SCHOOL. THIS WOULD COST A LOT LESS THAN LOSING LIVES AND LAWSUITS . ALSO, INVOLVE VOLUNTEERS SUCH AS PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS AND ARM THEM WITH CELL-PHONES TO CONTACT THE LOCAL POLICE DEPT. PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WALK THEIR DOGS SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO WALK THEM AROUND OUTSIDE PARAMETERS OF THE FENCE. HATS OFF WITH MANY THANKS TO THE YOUNG MILITARY MAN THAT STOOD GUARD OUTSIDE HIS KIDS' SCHOOL TO HELP PROTECT THEM. SURELY THESE STRAGETIES WILL COST MONEY; BUT THEY WILL GO A LONG WAY TO PROTECT OUR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS . GUN CONTROL-IF YOU STOP AND THINK; THE PERSON THAT PURCHASED THESE GUNS KNEW HER SON HAD MENTAL PROBLEMS/ ISSUES AND SHE WAS SANE? WOULD YOU CONSIDER SOMEONE SANE THAT TAKES SOME ONE THAT HAS MENTAL PROBLEMS TO A GUN RANGE AND TEACHES THE PERSON HOW TO SHOOT GUNS-WAS SHE NOT AT FAULT? DID NOT THIS CARELESS DICISION COST HER HER LIFE AND THE INNOCENT LIVES AT SCHOOL? BY ENCOURAGING THIS ACTIVITY WITH GUNS THAT SHE PURCHASED A SANE PERSON? HERSELF-DID SHE NOT HELP SET IN MOTION THIS COSTLY LOSS??? BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ONE'S ACTIONS IS THE KEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      January 21, 2013 at 4:47 am |
      • thoughts

        it is a very worrisome situation as a parent to send your child to shool with the recent chaos that has and is taking place. Parents of the mentally ill and / or challenged and / or on meds carry the heaviest load in these affairs it does seem.
        A police state is not one is which most parents would want their child to grow up in – yet a country that supports the rights of all to have access to health care that nourishes the mental as well as the physical state of all, and is mindful that all they do affects the mental states of all, and there is a seperation of fraud, corruption, power and politics from the actual delivery of mental health care, and the state, so that mental health is part of society, and not just something to hate – since all have mental health.

        January 21, 2013 at 4:57 am |
  41. smh

    I can see the headline now...armed teacher accidentily shoots 2nd grader who was pretending to be a ninja and snuck up on said teacher to say boo!. Ooops. Guns don't belong in schools.

    January 19, 2013 at 8:24 am |
  42. Jim

    Mental health treatment which our society ignores. 1. a child experiencing mental maladies/disorders/ family discord are being turned away from getting help as our health care system is lacking. 2. a young adult cannot officially be diagnosed unless he has displayed adverse behavior for a set period of time. 3. there are not enough mental health experts to go around to treat these people- there s no money in it. 4. someone who has been diagnosed with a malady may wait a long time for recurring follow up medication and therapy treatment. 5. Stigma of mental illness prevents real change from occurring. . Insurance providers will tell you if a patient is not actively suicidal or homicidal they are to be discharged from hospitals. 6. School experts are over burdened and they have no knowledge of the person who is at home plotting these tragedies. The crux of fixing or eliminating most of these horrors is raising mental health care to the level of all other physical illnesses .

    January 19, 2013 at 7:59 am |
  43. James

    Nearly all the perpetrators have fit into a narrow profile. Therefore the access to any weapons for individuals who belong to this profile is the only problem we have. Find these guys and prevent them from having access to weapons. Putting heavier burdens on everyone else will not impact the problem. Case closed!

    January 19, 2013 at 2:40 am |
  44. aicha Lemtouni

    Pay close attention to kids reserved or showing sign of malaise
    Metal detectors at the at risk schools

    January 19, 2013 at 2:38 am |
  45. Joe

    Making schools gun free zones is a kin to posting a sign on your house stating that all occupants on the premise are unarmed so please do not come here to commit a crime.
    We have put up signs inviting nut cases to victimize our children in our schools and they are answering the call.

    Had the principal and a few of the teachers in the CT school been armed he would most likely be alive right now and the shooter would not have chosen the school because he would have realized that his chances of success were severely limited. He would have know he would have had a higher chance of making the Darwin awards than succeeding in killing the children at the school.
    Not the statement he was looking to make.
    Teachers who wish to should not be deprived of their right to bear arms in schools. Due to recent and ongoing event
    many of these teachers are motivated to learn proper firearms self defense,
    We trust these people with our kids. I would trust that an armed teacher with a gun will not only protect his own life but chose to protect my children as best he or she can.
    That is much better than asking them to face evil people bent on destruction unarmed.

    The batman theater shooter did not choose the closest theater to his home. He choose the only theater that forbid people with concealed weapons permits to enter armed.
    Shortly after the CT shooting an armed man began shooting innocent people at the Clackamas mall in Portland OR
    http://www.kgw.com/news/Clackamas-man-armed-confronts-mall-shooter-183593571.html
    It ended when the man was confronted by a private citizen with a concealed weapon who had fortunately ignored the gun free zone signs posted at the entrances to the mall.
    When the shooter gun jammed and he was confronted by an armed individual he chose to end his own life rather than contiue.
    Gun free zones just don't work. They are a bad idea especially at schools. Criminals and nuts don't obey laws.
    That is why we consider them criminals and nuts.

    Even one or two uniformed officers are not as much of a deterrent as not knowing which adult staff member is armed.

    January 19, 2013 at 2:06 am |
    • humberto

      That's right, it was no secret about the statement he was making ... he wasn't mentally Ill, they were spoiled.
      And still evading justice.

      January 20, 2013 at 8:57 am |
      • humberto

        He's evading justice because the government had people that can play with your head and their no good too.

        January 20, 2013 at 9:03 am |
    • Judith

      You ight try reading and then somebody might see some sense in what you say.

      1) The school principle was a woman and not a man as you say.

      2) It is very doubtful that had the principle been armed that she could have made much if any difference to the outcome in that school.

      3) In the Colorado shooting it was not the only gun free cinema in the area but it was the only one showing that film at midnight. You have to wonder why on a school night parents were taking their children to a midnight showing.

      3) The Portland case was not a civilian who ended it but a police officer who was off duty.

      January 21, 2013 at 8:01 am |
  46. Name*wallace

    Each school should have armed security guards and shacks for the guards outside, to secure entry to the school by people other then parents. Issue each parent a badge with names of children that attend the school. For higher grade schools the same thing but tighter security within the school.

    January 19, 2013 at 1:45 am |
  47. Mike

    Obama's two kids went to school where large scale measure of security. They are not just protect two kids but entire of school too. Any parents who sent kids to same school with Obama's kids are very luck. The chance of shooting/massacre is incredible low. Obama don't want to armed other school. Does that mean his kids and school are more important than entire millions of students? I attended two different public high school and both of them are armed. I felt safer when armed security personnel is on campus.

    January 19, 2013 at 1:07 am |
    • Mike

      of security in place*

      January 19, 2013 at 1:10 am |
    • Judith

      It is a pity that you did not read the proposals by the President as it includes provisions for some armed personel in all schools.

      January 19, 2013 at 7:17 am |
    • fred bazzeeda

      Mike, please, try again and repeat school. With a posting like that, it is quite embarrassing to claim that you actually went to school.

      January 19, 2013 at 10:31 am |
  48. The truth

    I just looked up the total number of children that are enrolled in school in the United States. I divided that number into the number of children EVER KILLED inside of a school. (All information found on the FBI Uniform Crime Report). I determined that I have a better chance of winning the Powerball than ever having my child killed in school. However, another statistic that is glaring me in the face....my child has an extremely good chance of dying in a car accident, with me behind the wheel.

    January 19, 2013 at 12:46 am |
    • Judith

      Then turn in your driving licence and get rid of the car. Twenty children murdered is twenty children murdered too many.

      January 19, 2013 at 7:19 am |
  49. Todd

    1. Moral Conviction toward humanity, this should be taught from the Family, not the Federal/State Government
    2. Keep Real Criminals in Jail
    3. Proper Background Check
    4. Implement the Laws that are on the books

    January 18, 2013 at 10:50 pm |
    • Judith

      They cannot afford to keep real criminals in prison as they are full with people sent to prison for simple drug possession.

      January 19, 2013 at 7:20 am |
      • Steve A.

        And if they have a drug that is illegal..they are criminals.

        January 19, 2013 at 9:46 pm |
  50. Sense

    Two Words:

    National Guard

    January 18, 2013 at 10:35 pm |
    • The truth

      National Guard? Weekend warriors with little skill and minimal brains.

      -Signed

      Regular Army

      January 19, 2013 at 12:49 am |
  51. Ed

    What really keeps kids safe at school? The reasons why we are facing this issue in the first place contain the answers. An answer is found in what happens BEFORE the children even get to school. An answer is found in the condition of families in America. Answers are found in the fact that too many of America's families lack a strong moral foundation (which ultimately and significantly affects the well-being of a nation). Weak and broken families can spawn unstable children that often can turn into unstable and dangerous adults. Children growing up in abusive homes will tend to act out their fears and frustrations in unhealthy ways. Government is not equipped to deal with the real problems causing schools to be less safe than desired. Guns are not the problem. More people were injured last year with hammers than died due to gun shots. Do we ban hammers? Schools will be safer when families of students are more stable and when citizens come together to recognize and deal with the complex issues that have created the kind of culture that now requires some type of armed guard at the school door. Just my thoughts.

    January 18, 2013 at 8:01 pm |
  52. Melissa Schenk

    I used to have a female german shephard. I had to move to a bad neighborhood for a while and I was really glad that I had her. I was amazed at how she instictively knew who was trust worthy and who was not. One day the drug dealer downstairs got into some trouble with his people and they came to bust out all his windows and scare the crap out of him. My shephard heard them coming from atleast 30 sceonds off and fired off a warning bark! It was summer so the whole block heard her and then about 30 seconds later we heard the windows smash. Everyone told me how impressed they were at her ability to sense what was coming our way. They are sheep guard dogs and they view children as sheep. They guard them with their life and will tell you what is around them that they know is a threat. That includes people in the school system that have alterior motives for being there if you catch my drift. No other breed is as capable as the german shephard and kids love the pieces out of them. Every school should have one or two with a handler to walk the parimeter and socialize with the kids. The dogs cant do all the work but that is what man is for, but the dogs know what is coming and can be that incredible warning call that we are all wanting. My shephard would have known that gunman was on his way before he got to that location. She would have perceived him in the woods and warned at that point. Just think what could have been done had we had a 30 second or minute warning? Think of the peace that a good trained shephard would bring to a school and to the parents. They are in my opinion a very unused resource.

    January 18, 2013 at 6:57 pm |
  53. abmri60

    Automatic closing doors which one can only open up by a card ( like ATM ) for every student and school personal.
    These doors should be guarded by security personal.

    January 18, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
  54. carl l free

    police state at school we should fire all the Republicans in power guns are too easy to get we need education and protection we have too many gun toting hillbilly's and retards take the automatic weapons and make cars or any thing constructive you relay need a ak 47 to kill a deer more control of gun sales 10 year personal check and mental exam on all gun sales

    January 18, 2013 at 4:51 pm |
    • Steve A.

      Since far more kids die due to drug overdose and alcohol...should we fire the democrats instead?

      January 19, 2013 at 9:47 pm |
  55. john

    1. Ask mental health report from every kid, every year say between Jan 1 to Jan 30.

    That way any kid with mental health wont be allowed in the school

    January 18, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
  56. john

    1. Finger print all the student
    2. Go thru a metal detector
    3. Mental health issue kids, should not be admitted in school. They have to be in hospital
    4. Kids are getting bullied big time in US. If few guys are bullying other kids, kick them out of school.
    5. Big punishment has to be given to bullying kids.
    6. Have a security guard with GUN all the time in campus (Atleast school hours)

    January 18, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
    • John

      Absolutely Stupid

      January 19, 2013 at 9:10 am |
  57. Wallace Freeman

    Those of us who care enough, are armed. The rest of you...

    January 18, 2013 at 4:17 pm |
  58. Jon Bothe

    Stop covering the story! This is the exact reason the guy did this! instead of going out with a whimper, he went out in a blaze of media coverage.

    January 18, 2013 at 3:59 pm |
  59. Jake

    Armed guards, works for the president!

    January 18, 2013 at 3:39 pm |